I just thought this had to have a thread... (it is slightly political... and ethics I guess...)
Just, I was wondering what people thought about how the Simpsons handled gay marriage. I thought they did a pretty good job and didn't really offend anyone that wasn't being overally touchy about the subject.
I knew Lenny and Carl were gay....
Oh! And I just love the part about the reverand...
So did anyone else watch it?
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It's already aired?! I missed it! GAAAAH! Darn Darn Darn Darn Darn. Oh well.
I have watched The Simpsons for my entire life and I love them (stupid college making me miss that episode!) so I'm biased. I've always been impressed with the ways that they've handled contraversial issues. It's interesting to me to watch the evolution of the way the show treats homosexuality (and plenty of other issues, but I'll restrain myself here).
Homer's attitudes in particular have really changed over the years. In the first episode (that I recall) that dealt specifically with homosexuality (Homer Phobia, yeah I'm a nerd, I looked up the title) Homer was pretty homophobic. Actually, I would guess that he felt the way a majority of people feel. He wasn't rabidly anit-gay, it was just something that made him extremely uncomfortable.
The episode centers around Homer's friendship with John, a guy he likes, until he realizes that John is gay. Homer then becomes afraid that Bart is gay and tries different things to make him "be a man." Through the course of the episode Homer was forced to examine his prejudice and came to terms with it. In the end he tells Bart that he can be any way he wants to be. That episode aired in 1997.
A few years later though, when Homer and Marge were going through a period of separation, he moved into an apartment with a gay couple (Three Gays of the Condo). He was a little naive but didn't seem at all concerned by their homosexuality. "I wonder which will win out, my old fashioned prejudices or the fact that I've already mixed my laundry in with yours?" One of the guys develops a crush on Homer and gives him a kiss. After Homer and Marge are reunited thanks to Weird Al (god I'm a fan-girl) Marge kisses him. Homer says, "That was the best kiss I've had all night," then he thinks to himself, "Or was it?"
That was just a couple years ago. I like to think that Homer's growing tolerance echoes a growing tolerance in the public at large. I could probably go on, but I just realized how long this has gone on already, and I didn't actually see the episode that is the subject of this thread. Oh well.
-Anna "Queer, right? That's what you like to be called?" "Well, that or John."
As an Aussie, I probably won't get to see that episode for some months yet. However, there is another episode-- I'm not sure what it's called-- where Homer is skiing and is distracted by how sexy Flanders looks in his spiffy skiing gear. And there is another episode where Springfield has a Gay Pride parade, with and "in the closet" float that implies that Ned Flanders and Patty de Bouvier are both gay.
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Sorry! There was actually nothing in my post about the new episode though. The two I cited are both several years old. Still, if you haven't seen them, sorry about that.
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quote:Originally posted by Gumdrop Girl: [b]jeebus cripes!!!
you could have the courtesy of posting SPOILER ALERT in big letters at the top of your posts for those of us fans who have not seen it yet. geez, thanks a lot
Gummy, if you still haven't seen the episode, the particular coupling that was mentioned above wasn't the one featured in the episode. So nothing was really spoiled. And really, if you haven't watched the episode yet, go forth and watch. It's fantastic.
okay, thanks for the tip, Tim. Man, I was acutally pretty upset by that 'cause I'm a HUGE Simpsons fanatic, and i was already pretty miffed about having to miss the episode I've been waiting all season to see. My friends gt to attendthe table reading for that episode, and they were tormenting me with hints and teases.
sorry if i flew off the handle. i take the Simpsons far more seriously than most people.
Heh, I think Homer has his share of latent tendencies (Nothing at ALL! Nothing at ALL! :P) And according to one of those flash-forward episodes (the one with Bart getting a vision of the future in an Indian Casino, I think) Rodd and Todd are gay. And there's always Smithers...
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