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chocolateluva
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hmm aight this may be a lil touch y subject. first imma ask the quesitons, then imma put down my opinion

the quesiton is if someone is raped, most likely a femal but can be a male as well, and they were a virgin, did they lose their virignity? when yu make your answer, try to say what you think being a virign is so we ca see your view point better.

my facts
the definition of virgin from dictionary
girl or woman(and in recent use, man) who has not experience sexual union.

the hymen is usally broken by vaginal sex the first time(not always the case)

aight my opinion is that viringity is something you give up, like a gift to someone at marriage or your bf/gf whatever.
virginity is lost when yu have with the person you willingly give thta gift to, key word willingly.
being raped doesnt take away yur viginity even though physical yu have had sexual union with someone. viriginity is more than just physical to me, its emotional, so when someone is raped i gues they lose the phsyical part but not the other part. kinda hard to explain... but thats my opinion. any others?

i hope this the right board

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Hey! In the future please use the search function. We've had quite a few similar topics.
http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/000945.html http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/000298.html http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/000447.html http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/000663.html http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/001008.html

There you go! Virginity is a touchy subject here because it can mean a different thing to every single person. I think you've got more then enough to see what i mean right here.

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chocolateluva
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aight i c what yu mean and yep its touchy

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Choc, could you please post with more care to spelling?
Many users here -some of whom aren't native english speakers- just can not or do not want to read net slang.

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If someone is raped, most likely a female but can be a male as well, and they were a virgin, did they lose their virignity?

To me, losing your virginity is when your hymen breaks when you are having sex for the first time...its exactly that. And just that. But for some people, losing your virginity is having sex for the first time with someone you trust/love/care about etc. etc. So, in my opinion, if it was a raped girl, she would no longer be a virgin. But it could be different for other people. Everyone has their own views .


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quote:
To me, losing your virginity is when your hymen breaks when you are having sex for the first time...its exactly that.

Well, guys don't have hymens. Does that mean they aren't ever virgins? Some girls are born without hymens, or lose them through exercise or tampon use. And of course plenty of forms of sex do nothing to affect the hymen.

Obviously, as you say, everyone has their own views. But those are a few reasons why the "hymen=virginity" thing doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to many people.


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To me, you are not a virgin if you have had intercourse. In the case of rape, you would still have lost your virginity, but since it wasn't something you did purposely or of your own will, it isn't the same thing. It's not like the girl was going around sleeping with people - you can still be a good person while not being a virgin. Losing your virginity because of rape doesn't mean you've done anything wrong or immoral or sinful, because there wasn't anything you could have done to control it.

If you want to give the gift of your virginity to someone, I think you still have that even if you are raped; just because you had a gift for a friend and someone stole it out of your hands doesn't mean you didn't intend to give that gift out of love in the first place (did that make sense?) In other words, I think that rape victims may not be physically virginal any longer, but the emotional essence of their virginity, in a religious/moral aspect, is still there.

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quote:
It's not like the girl was going around sleeping with people - you can still be a good person while not being a virgin. Losing your virginity because of rape doesn't mean you've done anything wrong or immoral or sinful, because there wasn't anything you could have done to control it.

Hey now - I'm sure you don't mean to imply that people who have sex consensually are doing anything "wrong or immoral or sinful" either, do you? Or that you can't be a good person if you do "go around sleeping with people"?


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