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Lil' GreenBean Nose
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This girl, I'll call her Jill, decided to take naked pictures of herself. She got the polaroid camera from "Sam" Monday at school. Her brother's friend, who is over the age of 18, took the pictures. Jill brought the pictures to school Tuesday. I went to my school counselor and told. After a lot of people got involved and alot of other irrelevant stuff was brought up, nothing happened. The guy didn't get in trouble, the girl didn't get in trouble, no one is punished. I thought that was against the law?? I thinks its sorta screwy my school didn't do anything about it.
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A lot really depends on what rules your school or district and your state have about such things. If the over-18-year-old who took the pictures never actually touched your friend in a sexual manner, then statuatory rape could be difficult, if not impossible to prove, depending on Alabama law. And while it's hard to imagine that your school doesn't have some sort of rule about "inappropriate materials" (like nude pictures) at school, maybe if it's a first offence they let her off easy.

What really baffles me here is why any 14-year-old would want to take nude pictures of herself to school (heck, at 14, I wouldn't have wanted any nude pictures of myself, period!)

I also wonder, though, why it's any of your business? Is this girl a good friend of yours? If so, then maybe you could have a talk with her about why she wanted to do this. If you don't know her that well however, then maybe you could trust that whatever needed to be done was done (after all you weren't there during any of the talks she had with school authorities, were you?) and let it go at that.


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drewcosten
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Well, despite having no idea why a 14 year old would want to do such a thing, you yourself said that it was her idea so I fail to see the problem here.
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That's totally against the law. It could technically be considered child pornography. I'm shocked (but glad) that your school didn't report it.

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Lil' GreenBean Nose
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I know it isn't any of my business. She took them because Sam, the guy she used to date, wanted her too. I think she brought them to school to give to him and show to a couple of other people. She told the v.p she was drunk when she took them, blah blah blah. As far as I know, nothing was done. Her friend keeps telling me that she isn't getting in trouble, but I am supposidly getting in trouble for "lying" about her having the pictures, even though she admitted it to them. Jill is also friends with my ex-boyfriends sister, and now my ex-boyfriends mom is trying to get involved. Its sorta turned into one big mess. I thought it was sorta illegal to have nude pictures of someone under the age of 18, but I wasn't sure.
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i believe that the school didn't want to take action on this because of exactly what is happening. they didn't want it to become a public matter and that they just wanted to deal with it quietly. but their plan blew up in their face and now they're stuck with this mess. i don't know about american law but it is definitely illegal to have pornographic pictures of minors anywhere. it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, the person in possession will still be charged with possession of child pornography. the school should have just dealt with this by punishing the students in the first place instead of attracting media attentions or whatever. it would have probably been better, just a rumor in the school which would've died within a few days or so instead of this huge mess that it has metamorphosed into.

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Well I am not sure of the precise laws of this matter but clearly it couldnt be a straight law against naked photos of people under 18. Otherwise many parents are child pornographers because of a few pictures of their children when they are young. I imagine it is more to do with distributing or selling photos like that deliberately as child pornography. It sounds to me like these photos were meant for just one person in a relationship with the girl. So they were for personal use only. Its a slightly strange practice but I am most certainly not one to complain about that.

So I would probably at this point just apologise for making a big deal out of it and just say you thought it was more important than it was.

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I don't understand what your motivation for reporting her was. So what if she took naked pics of herself?

Is it illegal? I dunno, the laws concerning child porn are rather vauge and only "abuse" cases are generally brought to trial for that reason. I'm not a lawyer. People ussually only report precevied crimes, which you even admitted you didn't know if it was illeagal or not, when they preceive some sort of harm coming of them. Unless you're a huge stickler for preserving the integrity of the learning environment at school I see no harm here, so I wonder why it is that you reported her.

If someone wants to taked nude pictures of themselves that's their own business, not a public affair, which may be exactly what the school administrators and parents though too and why no one is being punished.


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quote:
Originally posted by Confused boy:
It sounds to me like these photos were meant for just one person in a relationship with the girl. So they were for personal use only.

Just FYI, there is no "personal use clause" regarding underage pornography. Child pornography laws tend to be pretty rigid in the US, and under strict interpretation of the law even parents could be held liable for naked pictures of their children. However, an exception is granted in this case because it seems to be contrary to the "spirit" of the law, which is to protect children from potential predators.

This particular case is hard to go on because there really isn't a lot of information here. Much of the circumstances seem to be stemming from hearsay, which is both inadmissible in court and tends to stymie criminal prosecution. So while on the surface there seems to be an overt violation of US criminal law here, none of us really has enough information to pass judgement until more concrete facts are known.

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Lil' GreenBean Nose
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Some off what I know, I've heard from other people, some of it I heard from Jill herself and the guy who gave her the camera. Alot of people have seen the pictures, and I got a note she wrote to the guy she was giving the pictures to which pretty much says "here are your pics. hope it gives you something to whack off to". I gave it to my counselor person. I think everything is pretty much solved now though. She got grounded, but nothing happened at school.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lil' GreenBean Nose:
[B]She told the v.p she was drunk when she took them, blah blah blah. As far as I know, nothing was done. [B]

Not to go off-topic, but she wasn't reprimanded for drinking? I know a girl at my school that was suspended for having Pamprin at school!

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Lil' GreenBean Nose
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Nope. As far as I know, she got grounded at home. No one did anything about it. Not the pictures, not the drinking. Nothing.
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About the drinking thing...I don't know what the laws are and what kind of punishments there are for underage drinking, but I know they're not strictly enforced. My friend used to go party at the lake a lot with his older sister and her friends. They were all under 21 (but most were over 18). One day the cops were called and all the cops did were give the underage ones citations for curfew, they had to pour out all the drinks they had and their parents had to come and get them. From what I've heard from other kiddos this is what usually ends up happening...
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