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'rin
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i work in a bookstore, and like many bookstores we have a selection of "adult" magazines such as playboy and penthouse. we keep them all in their origional wrappings and on the side of the magazine rack closest to the registers where we can be sure that they remain in their plastic until bought. we also have them tagged so they set off our security alarm if someone tries to wander out with one (a big problem in the past). anyway.........the other day a young boy, about 8 or 9 i think, grabbed one and ran out of the store. he set off the alarm and i happened to be near the front of the store so i chased him. predictibly, the kid lost me, it was a busy mall and he was fast. whatever, i wrote it in our known theft log and forgot about it. until his mother came back with him about 4 hours later. threatened to sue me and the company i work for for allowing a minor to get pornography. when i pointed out it was stolen and asked for it back she refused, calling it evidence, and left with it.....nevermind the fact that it was stolen, or that i tried to stop him. so i'm most likely facing a law suit. i don't get it, what happened to people being responsible for their children or their own actions?
'rin

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Honestly, I think being responsible for your own actions and your children went out with the " what common sense?" lawsuits of the 90s. Spill coffee and burn yourself, sue McDonald's. Cut yourself, sue Ginsu. Don't like something, sue God...

Hopefully things won't go too badly for you with regard to this whole mess. But hey, it's kind of a double-edged sword: after all, the merchandise is stolen. Then again, they don't usually arrest 8-year-olds for theft.

Some people need to (a) grow a brain and (b) not have children. This woman sounds like both.


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Well 'rin, the good news is that you're going to be just fine. If the woman is to sue your company, she would be making a pretty silly tactical error.

First of all, her son stole the magazine. Dio you have any store security cameras or mall security cameras that could have recorded the event? Even if your business doesn't use cameras, I'm willing to bet that the mall has several, if not several dozen. Those tapes could be subpoenad and used in court to prove the boys guilt. This, coupled with your "Known Theft Log" should do the trick in making clear you are not responsible for the boy possessing pornography.

The reason the mother would be foolish to press charges is that her son is a minor. That means that if she does press charges, and it is found that her son did, in fact, steal the magazine...she will be held criminally liable for his actions. So once the civil case is dropped, a juvenile criminal proceeding would likely take place. This would end up leaving that woman with a fine, or some other form of punishment depending on your jurisdiction. So her misguided attempt at shirking responsibility would come back to haunt her.

Feel better?

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'rin
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yeah, i do feel better now, thanks. honestly, i'm more astounded/dismayed/shocked by this woman's behavior than i'm worried about a lawsuit/my job. and yeah, the mall has cameras, one of wich points right at our exit. i just can't believe that a person would do something that nuts.
'rin

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A lot of people seem to be "sue" happy, but I think only a fraction of them ever actually end up going to court. If she was crazy enough to try and go through with it, I'm sure lawyers would tell her that there would be no way that she would win that case and it would be just a waste of her money.

I tend to find that a lot of people running around on the streets really need to have their heads checked though...so many potential psychiatric patients..so little time

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Wow! hahaha, if that was my little brother, and my mom, that definatly wouldn't have happened. I know lots of moms though, who would have said what that women would have.

I think that some people are so consumed with "what perfect angels" their children that they can't always see the truth, hehe.

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What a silly woman! I think that she may be in shock that her "darling boy" would have porn. I think that either that lady will never come back again, or she'll first complain to your manager/personnel at the mall. Don't worry about your job or anything though...she'll never get anywhere. She's acting nutty...there are lots of stupid people, methinks. The smart people have to fight against stupidity.

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It's another example that children are not as innocent as most parents would like to think that they are. All the newspaper articles of even kids raping other kids should be a sign that it isn't 1950 anymore.

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Whoa, that's just ridiculous! Dan is right, though, if you supplied them with the tapes, she would be the one facing punishment. Now-a-days it seems that anyone would do anything for a little bit of money. More money, more problems, as they say.

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Was there any other employees working at the time? If so, then you will more than likely still have your job, if not, then you really need to get your hands on those tapes which will be more legit evidence. The woman may have been bluffing, however. She may have felt embarrassed. Maybe her son lied and said that you checked him out.

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One last thing, you said they are behind the counter next to the registers, if it is that easy for a child to get behind your counter and beside your registers and still a porno magazine, wouldn't it be just as easy for someone to get behind your counter and still money from the register? A lot of people who have worked previously in retail know secrets to opening a drawer without ringing a customer up. Maybe you guys should keep a closer eye on the register, because like you said, things are logged to set off an alarm that reports stolen merchendice, you shouldn't worry so much about those people, but it makes you look irresponsible when a little kid steels something from behind your counter.

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'rin
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thanks again for the reasurance. haven't heard back from the lady so i think she was just shocked that her kid had a playboy. sorry if my explaination was vague, the mag he stole wasn't behind the counter, just right next to it. our magazine rack is right next to our counter and the skin mags are on the side closest to it. yeah, if someone stole something from our desk behind the counter i'd be really worried myself.
'rin

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