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silver snatch
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If state legislatures or Congress were to pass a sexual bill of rights, including rights for minors, what would you include?

I think a good starting point for it would be the right to comprehensive, non-discriminatory (to girls and sexual minorities) sexuality education without parental approval.


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PoetgirlNY
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Free safer sex supplies for all! The right not to be sexually abused or assaulted. Reasonable age of consent laws that don't prohibit a 17 year old and an 18 year old from having sex. Something with more of a range.

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Heather
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I'd actually vote for getting rid of the AOC altogether.

Rape is rape is rape. And sex without consent is rape -- regardless of age -- and should be prosecuted as such. The fact that "child molestation" is treated more seriously than rape is horrendous, as is the fact that molestation isn't legally considered rape, which it should be.

I'd also like to see remaining laws against consensual sexual activities taken off the books for good.

And it'd sure be nice if men were given specialized sexual health care that is as freely available as that for women.

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Bobolink
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We have a number of "age of consent" type laws in North America. There is the age when one is able to acquire a driver's licence, the age when one can legally contract debt (e.g. credit cards}, the age when one can legally consume beverage alcohol, the age when one can vote. Note: these laws differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

However, the idea behind these laws is that there is an age before which a person is incapable of giving knowing consent. These laws are intended to protect both the individual and society. Do we really want an 11-year-old to legally drive 2 tonnes of steel and rubber? We can say that everyone matures at a different rate. But could a maturity test be devised to grant a credit card? The "age of consent" is an arbitrary boundary. But it is one that lets large groups (300 million) in North America know where thay stand.

Without an age of consent, could someone convict me of sexual assault for having sex with a 25-year-old woman for whom it could be claimed that she wasn't mature enough to make an informed consent? Conversely, could I have sex with an 8-year-old girl ("8 is too late!") and defend my actions maintaining that the girl gave informed consent?

It's because of these grey borders that arbitrary standards are imposed. I think that we would be poorer without them.

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Etch
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I think that the point of getting rid or changing age of consent laws is NOT so people can have sex with children. Its so that it isnt considered a criminal act if you have sex with someone who is a minor age difference, but still on the other side of that magic line. It isnt fair that a couple who is 17 and 18 cannot have legal sex. I think they should have a flat out age that is younger then 18 (i would like 15 or 16) and then maybe a two year rule. I mean two year rule like you have to be between one year of each other or something untill you are 18. So a 16 year old can be with an 18 year old, and a 17 year old can be with a 19 year old.

That is what i would like in a sexual bill of right. More flexibility, but still making it easy to carry out.


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Duff
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The right to sexual privacy
The right to sex education

the age thing is hard to figure out, because i know that kids who are super young, just will do almost anything you tell them is good or will make you happy, and like them. But when is the age at which you can say everyone is a the point were they can truly say that they are having sex, to please themselve, not to gain brownie points? becuse to me thats basically what non-violent childmolestation is, a person, trying to apease another person, and not really thinking about what makes them happy, as long as they get that pat on the back, or that smile.


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Heather
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(And yet, Duff, there are many, many adults who behave sexually in the exact same way.)
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Sapphire85
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I am heartily, heartily behind the sexual privacy bill. In my opinion, only my doctor and my partner (obviously) need to know. No fourth parties.
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PoetgirlNY
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Actually, thinking about this further . . . we should just inflict Scarleteen rules on the world! You should have to pass the sex readiness checklist before legally being allowed to have sex. Although I don't know how that could be enforced.

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