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kayajaaa
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Hello all!

I am having trouble with my copper IUD. To sum up: the first I got fell out of my uterus after a year and a half of good and faithful service, in last December. My OB/GYN had apparently no idea why this happened - specially since my previous OB/GYN had made sure it was in its place a few weeks after we put it in, and that everything had been fine for a year and a half, till it just fell out in my vagina.

My OB/GYN said that it was ok to put a new one in place. So did we, 6 months ago... and now, a few days ago, my partner said that he felt something very sharp while we were having penile-vaginal sex - it even made him bleed a bit! - so I went to have the IUD checked, and, for the second time it appears that I am expelling it.
The thing is, my OB/GYN (who's different from the one who put the first IUD in place AND from the one who put the second in place; I've been moving several times those past years) doesn't have a clue what could have caused this. And she doesn't seem to be interested in exploring hypothesis either. So I was wondering if you knew some possible causes of which she might not be aware?

For instance, that might be stupid but I seldom have anal sex, and I have had anal sex both times before my IUD fell down. Since I have a retroverted uterus, and after having seen a pic of what it means, I was wondering if anal sex might somehow give "micro-shocks" that might cause the IUD to fell out?

I was also wondering if maybe my mucus membrane in the uterus was damaged, preventing the IUD from keeping in place... or does it not work this way?


Secondly, the radiologist I saw yesterday who confirmed that I was expelling the IUD said keeping it in the low part of the uterus (it's not in the vagina - yet) "might be dangerous for the mucus membrane, yes... but nothing irreversible!!" uh, thanks dude [Frown] what does that mean, could it hurt me? Should I take it out right now by pulling the strings, then, or is it okay to wait a few days till I can see the OB/GYN again?

! Now, I understand that you're not here to replace doctors! And I will go see the OB/GYN anyway. But the problem is, each time I ask precise questions, to almost _any_ OB/GYN I've ever seen (including in family plannings), they give me the : "hum, that one seems anxious" look and instead of answering - or instead of saying "I don't know but I will try to look this up, call me in a few days -, they tell me that "I don't need to worry". But I would just like to understand ! So if you have any ideas/experiences, I welcome them warmly [Smile]

Thanks a lot!

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Heather
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I'm afraid I earnestly have no idea why you've had these issues, and if your providers don't either, I think it's safe to say at this point that you, or we, probably just can't know.

I do think your theories around this with anal sex and the position of your uterus (just FYI, retroverted urteuses are kind of an iffy concept at this point, since we know the uterus kind of hangs by ligaments meaning no uterus ever truly has a static position) aren't sound, though, if that helps.

You CAN'T, and shouldn't try to, remove your IUD yourself. THAT is a way to potentially injure yourself. If you want your IUD removed, that's something you need to ask your provider to do for you.

But it does sound like if you have another expulsion with this one, you should figure it's time to explore a different method, as I'd say with two expulsions, it's clear -- this is probably super-obvious -- the IUD isn't a method that's going to be a good fit for you.

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I'm afraid I earnestly have no idea why you've had these issues, and if your providers don't either, I think it's safe to say at this point that you, or we, probably just can't know.

I do think your theories around this with anal sex and the position of your uterus (just FYI, retroverted urteuses are kind of an iffy concept at this point, since we know the uterus kind of hangs by ligaments meaning no uterus ever truly has a static position) aren't sound, though, if that helps.

You CAN'T, and shouldn't try to, remove your IUD yourself. THAT is a way to potentially injure yourself. If you want your IUD removed, that's something you need to ask your provider to do for you.

But it does sound like if you have another expulsion with this one, you should figure it's time to explore a different method, as I'd say with two expulsions, it's clear -- this is probably super-obvious -- the IUD isn't a method that's going to be a good fit for you.

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I'm afraid I earnestly have no idea why you've had these issues, and if your providers don't either, I think it's safe to say at this point that you, or we, probably just can't know.
ok :/ thanks for answering so fast.

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I do think your theories around this with anal sex and the position of your uterus (just FYI, retroverted urteuses are kind of an iffy concept at this point, since we know the uterus kind of hangs by ligaments meaning no uterus ever truly has a static position)
really?! from my experience and my female friends', it seems many gynecologists here aren't aware of this fact! o_O

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aren't sound, though, if that helps.
ok.

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You CAN'T, and shouldn't try to, remove your IUD yourself. THAT is a way to potentially injure yourself. If you want your IUD removed, that's something you need to ask your provider to do for you.
ok. I remember a gynecologist once told me it was easy and I could do it myself.. it's difficult to figure out what's right in the amount of inanities I've been told by several of them [Frown]

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But it does sound like if you have another expulsion with this one, you should figure it's time to explore a different method, as I'd say with two expulsions, it's clear -- this is probably super-obvious -- the IUD isn't a method that's going to be a good fit for you.
One more question: the radiologist yesterday assured me (but he's not a specialist of gynecology) that some IUD were better than others, that I should try to buy something better than the default one they tend to prescribe in the family plannings. Is that true ?

Otherwise, I don't know what I will do, because I don't want to use any hormonal methods. For me the copper IUD was - theoretically, and in practice for the first year and a half - the best solution, and, in fact, the only good one for what I know. I guess that, if the IUD doesn't work for me and I don't want to take hormones, then only condoms - male or female - would do ? Diaphragms seem a bit complicated to use, plus they're supposed to be used with spermicide, right? I don't want to use the latter either..
Or maybe we'll try to look for a masculine contraceptive..

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Yep, really. Some people don't keep up with their continuing education. But too, some doctors will kind of shortcut or abbreviate the way they give information to patients, so some doctors that know this still will describe uteruses to patients in ways that aren't complete.

(And really, in a lot of cases, it's not like they're doing anything wrong in that regard, especially when it's not like someone is in the office for an educational visit. As well, if at the time they are feeling or looking at your uterus, and it's in a retroverted position, it's not like telling you it is is incorrect. A lot of the time that's what's happening, and then patients just assume that means it's always that way on their own. In other words, I think it's often patients just assuming "Your uterus is retroverted" means it ALWAYS is or must be, rather than knowing it simply is right then when the doctor is saying that. When a doctor says that, I think it's safe to say plenty of them really only mean "right this second." Especially since if it was something static, that's usually due to health conditions that may require treatment, like uterine adhesions, conditions they'd likely be talking to you about.)

I am alarmed to her ANY GYN told ANY patient they could remove an IUD on their own, however. Every reproductive health organization and association makes clear doctors are to advise patients with IUDs NEVER to try such a thing. You cannot do it yourself.

Here's a good basic page on removal for patient education, if you'd like: http://contraception.about.com/od/iud/p/IUDremoval.htm

I have no idea what your radiologist was referring to, but since contraception isn't part of their practice or education, that's not who I'd be talking to about this issue anyway.

You do have other options, and it might be that it may be time to reconsider some you have previously ruled out. But since you're not at that point yet, I'd suggest we table that discussion -- which I'm happy to have with you -- until you figure out, with a qualified healthcare provider -- if you are keeping your IUD in or not.

[ 07-17-2013, 03:11 PM: Message edited by: Heather ]

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All right, then I'll get back to you if I need some more information after having seen my healthcare provider. I'll check the pages on contraceptives on Scarleteen too...

Thanks a lot for your time, and always valuable advice! [Smile]

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Good luck: here's hoping you wind up with a better class of provider this time than you've been encountering! [Frown]

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