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Teeny56943
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Just curious again - but if you don't get the egg white cervical mucus, could that mean you're pregnant? Or would you get the EWCM even if you were pregnant?
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When a woman becomes pregnant, she stops releasing eggs, and her fertility cycles change because of the pregnancy. So, pregnant women would not generally see fertile mucus, no.

However, often women who are not charting their fertility daily will often not notice certain phases of their cycles. If you're not charting every day, it can be easy to miss seeing or recognizing mucus changes like fertile mucus. So no, I'd not say not seeing that means pregnancy.

However, since not seeing that would put a woman a month past a previous ovulation, if at that time -- a month after the last ovulation -- a woman had had risks of pregnancy and had not had a period, she'd want to test for pregnancy at that point, which is the reliable way to determine a pregnancy.

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I see I think. I guess to be more clear I should have asked, if a woman has sperm in her before she has started her ewcm phase and gets pregnant eventually from that sperm, will she skip that ewcm phase that month if that sperm was going to fertilize an egg or would she get ewcm that month since it occurs before an actual egg is released?
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So, lets say that a given woman is going to ovulate on day 14 of her cycle, so she'd have the mucus usually a day or so before, that day and the next. If she had intercourse that was going to result in pregnancy on the 11th, no, that mucus would not change.

Cervical mucus and vaginal discharge changes from pregnancy don't start (and aren't often noticeable fro quite some time) until there is an actual pregnancy, and pregnancy is not an instant process. It takes around a week, sometimes even a little more, to go from the sex that creates a pregnancy to a completed pregnancy.

And so all that makes sense, that cervical mucus with ovulation is part of what is needed for a pregnancy to happen: the consistency that it is -- unlike the thicker, pastier discharge towards the end of a fertility cycle -- helps sperm move to the cervix.

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So you're saying even if that woman did get pregnant she would still have the ewcm? Sorry I know this is a lot of questions I just want to be sure I totally understand!
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I think the central problem we may be having in getting to an understanding here is about language.

Looking back to the example I gave, a woman who has sex on day 11 of her cycles could not BE pregnant in just a couple days: pregnancy takes longer than that to happen.

But if a woman who had sex on day 11 was going to BECOME pregnant from that sex, then yes, just like if she did not become pregnant, if she ovulated in that cycle, she would have fertile mucus regardless. Her having sex that could create a pregnancy -- even if it did that -- a few days before would not change her cycle in advance of a pregnancy.

Better? [Smile]

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Yes that's clearer thank you! I just wanted to be sure you'd still have it that month regardless of whether or not you became pregnant. Thank you!
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If you were going to ovulate that month, yes, you would.

You're welcome! [Smile]

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Sorry one last little question then I promise I'm done haha! You used day 11 as an example but if it were before day 11 that you had sex, you'd still get it if you were going to ovulate right?
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It would not really matter when you had sex, ultimately. You can't become pregnant before you have ovulated in a cycle, because no egg has been released to fertilize.

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And since you have ewcm before you ovulate, like ovulation, you'd still have it regardless of when you had sex
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That mucus usually starts a day or so before ovulation, continues through ovulation, and sometimes to a day or so after, depending on the individual woman and her particular cycle.

So again, yes, unless we are talking about a pregnancy that happened in the PREVIOUS cycle.

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Thank you! sorry again about my confusion!
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Not a problem. A whole lot of people are confused about fertility, especially since it's not often information we're given -- or given correctly -- when we get education about our periods and reproductive systems.

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"Heather-
It would not really matter when you had sex, ultimately. You can't become pregnant before you have ovulated in a cycle, because no egg has been released to fertilize."


Sorry i posted a question on this before i read the other posts, so i thought i could ask one here...

"You can't become pregnant before you have ovulated in a cycle, because no egg has been released to fertilize."

Does that mean that if you have unprotected sex before you've ovulated, and then a few days later you do ovulate... you can't get pregnant? Since there was no egg to be fertilized?

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No, it doesn't mean that, because sperm can survive in the vagina for several days: some sources suggest it may be as long as one week.

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oh okay, thank youu

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In response to something you said earlier, how long after a womans "completed" pregnancy does her discharge change? And what are those changes?
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That's hard to say exactly...because to a certain extent it's going to be individual to a woman and a pregnancy. Discharge is influenced by what you've got going on hormonally, which can go haywire during a pregnancy. You're not going to see the same sort of phases of discharge that you do during a fertility cycle. Many women may see an increase in the amount of discharge they have during pregnancy (though that's not going to be everybody, nor will it be the same all the time). During my pregnancy, I had a ton of watery discharge at the beginning. Then later I had less and much more toward the end again. As to when it happens, again that's going to be individual because there is a general range/time frame for hormonal changes but it's not set for everyone. Again though, this isn't going to be the same for everybody because bodies and pregnancies are different.

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I understand it can be different for everybody but can the change in mucus start as early as the day of actual pregnancy occurance or is that too early?
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Likely that would be too early to see anything noticable. Again, it's not going to be a set interval...but rather related to the way hormone levels build and how the woman's body responds to that. It could be days, it could be weeks...the changes could be slight to what is "normal" for a woman and not even be noticed at all.

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Yeah I understand I just wondered if the day of the compete pregancy for woman ist early for any c.m. Changes
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Yeah I understand I just wondered if the day of the compete pregancy for woman ist early for any c.m. Changes
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Is too early***
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It is incredibly unlikely that a woman would notice any changes in discharge (or anything else for that matter) on the day of a complete pregnancy.

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Okay thank you!
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