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Djuna
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I was thinking through some stuff, and looking back, I was pretty upset at the time I was circumcised. I was about 10, I guess. I wasn't particularly sad to see the relevant bits go, if you catch my drift, but the whole experience was pretty sore for a while.

Is anyone aware of anything that's been written about possible psych trauma or something like that associated with male circumcision? I'm wondering if it could be contributing to a sense of gender dysphoria.

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That really depends on how in-depth you want readings on. If you google Psychological effects and Circumcision, the first link is one to a bunch of scholarly articles. They can sometimes be overwhelming though, so it's really going to depend how much of a reader you are and such. Do you want to talk about these feelings on gender?

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Djuna
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In terms of how I feel about gender, well, I don't know. I've been seeing a counsellor a little about it (although I'll need to find a new one when I move to Oregon). I really don't know if the way I feel is based on gender or body image or what.

I suppose you could say it's a kind of self-hatred and it definitely has to do with my body and how I see myself sexually. I don't think that a sex change helps that. I don't know.

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One man, who had been subjected to circumcision at the age of three years old, vividly recalled at the age of thirty, how he had been undressed and his penis manipulated by a man in a mask pre-operatively, without his consent. The child had experienced an erection about which he was embarrassed, and then, post-operatively found himself with a bleeding, painful penis from which the foreskin had been amputated without his permission. This event had changed his life. He was angry that this had been done to him and humiliated by his powerlessness to protect himself from what felt like sexual manipulation. He felt that he had been sexually abused. In any other context than the medical one, the same sequence of events would be open to an interpretation of sexual abuse. To the child, the psychological impact is the same, whether it is illegal rape or legalised medical activity.

Another man, who was circumcised at the age of seven, asked what was going to happen to him in hospital. He was told that it was "nothing" and he didn't need to worry his head about it. After the operation he was devastated to find that part of his penis was missing and that his trust in his parents' words had been misplaced. It was as if his experience of losing part of his body was not worth a mention or an explanation.

Found here. I wonder if this might be relevant - I was a little older, but I guess the principle holds.

[ 06-18-2010, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: patrickvienna ]

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Often the operation is done to babies, and thus they remember nothing. But understand, having a foreskin doesn't make you any more or less of a man than not having one. It's a difference of ideas and customs. Here in America it's more of a custom and more widely done, but again it's not something that's about changing the gender of a person in any way. But certainly any type of surgery may have some psychological effects. It's why it's important when a person is old enough to understand what's happening or going to happen where it's not medically required they should have some part in the decision making.

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