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This article recently appeared in the newspapers in Australia, and raised some interesting issues. What is your view on it??
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Wow, that article really made me think! I had to laugh at the word 'McFeminism', but it's true - I think this 'new' feminism started off as a marketing tool, a way of making money, and that's sad. I admire the 'real' feminists - the suffragettes who chained themselves to railings and suffered so that women today can vote. They are the brave women who fought to have their voices heard!

'New' feminism is very fake. I mean, it's all very well wearing a Girl Power t-shirt, but isn't that just a fashion statement? Real feminism isn't about being a pop legend or a superhero, it's about fighting for what you believe in all the way, no matter what...well that's what I think anyway

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Don't believe the hype.

Except most of us do. If someone wants to wear a Girl Power t-shirt, I think that's grand. While that individual may be oblivious to the meaning behind the message, other people may not be. In order to feed the message to people, you have to deliver it over and over again, and across the breasts of young teens is as good a place as any.

Is McFeminism a pop commodity? Sure. But so were condoms in the 80's, and the message was successful. Condoms were "cool" for quite a long time because of the mass media distribution of that message.

Same thing, different commodity.

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Oof, this whole "girl power" feminism just rubs me the wrong way. Here are my responses to some quotes from the article:

"Girls today don't want to marry the hero – they want to become the hero."

Hmm, perhaps, but it's still all about men. Girls want to be a "hero" like Britney Spears, because then all the men will find her attractive and she'll have lots of money to buy sexy clothes with. The don't need to marry a hero, because they can sleep with all the hottest guys in the world!

"She doesn't need a man to define her – she's staked her own claim to the privileges of both femininity and masculinity."

That's what bothers me... I'm all for people defining themselves without being limited to traits that are stereotypically associated with their gender. But these "heroes" are just taking the worst of both sexes! The masculine drive to succeed, no matter who you step on, + "feminine wiles"... oh please.

"They criticise male-dominated industries and profit from them at the same time."

In other words, they are sleeping with the enemy.

And now for a change of pace, some quotes I like:

"If '70s feminism was built on ideals of authenticity and solidarity, '90s feminism was built on fantasies of individual self-advancement. Now every Madonna wannabe evokes the mythology that women can already do everything."

And that's a very harmful myth.

"Girls are told they can do anything. But the reality is only a minority will find fame and fortune in glamorous careers. Many more will find themselves forced into "McJobs" – low pay, low status jobs in the service industries."

Yep. Your McFeminism won't save you now! Capitalism's not so much fun when you're on the bottom, is it?

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Originally posted by badly_behaved_badger:
Real feminism isn't about being a pop legend or a superhero, it's about fighting for what you believe in all the way, no matter what

But we must remember that what some pop stars believe in is singing, expressing themselves to an audience, and having attention. Our goals in life are all different: my mom wants to be a nurse, my friend Rochelle wants to be a politician, and Madonna wants to "rule the world". Unfortunately (in my opinion), the person who receives the most attention is Madonna. (Though I must admit, I am a devoted Madonna fan). But I don't think we should bash pop stars, because all they did was acheive their goals. We should go after the people who make them airbrushed and manipulate us into believing we should spend millions of dollars buying their merhandise and endless hours watching them on television.

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