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Anxious One!!
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Yes i understand the concept of child birth and how one is conceived and all, but i want to know what the birds and the bees have to do with it??? Why are they used??????

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alaska
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Oh, you mean why the terms "bird's and bees" is used when people talk about human reproduction? That's a good question, actually. I'll move this to the general boards to see whether someone has any idea and search for an answer, too. Okay?

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ErinK
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It's just a wacky English phrase. Don't worry, no birds nor bees have to come into contact with your anatomy. (Whew!)

Here's what Cecil Adams has to say about it:

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Don't feel bad. Nobody explained it to me, either, and I must say I made quite an impression that first night with the honey and feathers. But now I'm hip. The
significance of the birds and bees isn't what they do, it's simply that they do it, "it," naturally, being a tussle in the tumbleweeds, or wherever it is that the lower orders
engage in sex.

Where exactly "the birds and the bees" originated nobody knows, but word sleuths William and Mary Morris hint that it may have been inspired by words like these
from the poet Samuel Coleridge: "All nature seems at work ... The bees are stirring--birds are on the wing ... and I the while, the sole unbusy thing, not honey make,
nor pair, nor build, nor sing." Making honey, pairing ... yes, we can definitely tell what Sam had on his mind.

The Morrises offer the theory that schools in years past taught about sex by "telling how birds do it and how bees do it and trusting that the youngsters would get the
message by indirection." Right. Luckily for the perpetuation of the species, there's always been Louie in the schoolyard to explain how things really worked.


That's from http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_229a.html

Another site says "Alas, the expression's origins are overlooked, and surprisingly it doesn't appear in many dictionaries of idioms. Sounds Victorian,doesn't it?" (http://www.writersblock.ca/winter97/a-letter.htm)

I got these two quotes by doing a Google search on "birds and bees phrase origin" -- there's a lot more hits out there if you want to do the search yourself.

erin


[This message has been edited by ErinK (edited 07-19-2001).]


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alaska
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oh Erin, you rock. Thanks gal. My google search wasn't that successful. Bad search words on my part.
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Laughs_Wisely
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Since gr. 11 biology, I've found the idea of 'the birds and the bees' pretty funny, since neither birds or bees's copulatory processes mimic ours.

I mean...birds basically press their butts together (their vents, which is where all waste is expelled, as well as sperm)...

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"Birds do it, bees do it/Even educated fleas do it/Let's do it/Let's fall in love.."

*smirks*

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FlirtieGirlie
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Bees polinate (aka, men) and birds lay eggs (aka, women)! At least thats what my mommy told me....

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