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WonderGirl16
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Searching through the web today i found something that really bothers me, and actually made me kind of mad. A list of "straight Pride"... Even though the sites claim to "in now way bash or make fun of gays" i still found that i was very insulted. They offer stickers and t-shirts and what-not to promote "the silent majority". maybe i'm just too uptight? maybe i got up too early this mornin on the wrong side of the bed? i found one site saying that they want the "same equal rights given to the homosexual comunity. these right were given to them by heterosexuals and are now being used against us" uhmm.... what eaqual rights? the one where we can't marry out partner? or the one where we are constantly discriminated against?

I'm very sorry... these just made me very mad. many may not agree w/ me. Please tell me what you think.. but try not to bite my head off while doing it, ok?

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Heather
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Truthfully, I presonally find it a bit odd to be "proud" of something I didn't really choose anyway. I've been bisexual for all of my life, but I don't feel proud of it, it's simply the way that I am. However, I think with gay pride in general, the pride aspect is often really about being able to be out in cultures in which it truly is a challenge, and that is laudaable, IMO.

I wouldn't mind the Straight priide stuff at all (despite finding it a bit silly), but t-shirts that say "One Way" on them, don't strike me as being benign or nonoffensive. The beauty of a rainbow flag, for instance, is that it attempts to graphically respresent everyone. "One way" isn't inclusive. To say the least.

So, while it doesn't steam me up, I guess you could say when this was first brought up and I looked for this stuff, I wasn't falling for the whitewash.

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DrQuack5
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That one kid that wore the "Straight Pride" T-shirt to school in southern Minnesota (I think it was southern, at least) kinda pissed me off. I mean, at first I was just like, "Good for him" but that was because I has literally just awaken and turned the radio on . Later, when I started thinking about it, I got kinda angry. To me, it was like a plea for attention because he seems to be so stamped and copied and non-individual that the only way he could distinguish himself was to take pride in a very common sexuality. I don't know. It made sense at the time and I could probably get the note back from my g/f were I was ranting about it (so I wasn't paying attention in APUSH, so what?). But just the fact that he would do that (partially because of religious views, too) kinda cheezed me.
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I don't know, for me Pride is like, I'm proud to be who I am, I'm not going to hide my sexuality because some people will have a problem with it, I'm proud to be involved in the GBLT community, I'm proud that I'm trying to make a difference, I'm proud that I know the latest political happenings and once I can vote I'll be proud to vote for equal rights for GBLT.

So..if you take that from a straight person, straight pride? Are they proud to go vote for straight things? Are they proud to be a part of the straight community? Are they proud to be who they are and refuse to be discriminated against?

Yeah...that's my little problem with that. I mean, minorities have their pride things (ie: blacks, mexicans, etc) and once they became seen as equals it died down big time. And once we have equal rights I'm sure ours will die down too. However, imagine if there was a White Community Center, and White youth groups, and White Parades, and White Pride. I bet a lot of people would throw a hissy fit.

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John Doe
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Pixie,
there are those things, but the people who go to them are not the type I would want to associate with, and equal rights is not exactly at the top of their agenda. White parades are often done by people in white hoods going down to a wennie roast at the burning cross.

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I think that it isn't inappropriate for straight people to have "straight pride, but it is seems to be mocking the statement "gay pride" and perhaps making fun of it in a way that someone could find offensive. I, personally, don't take offense to such statements that people make, for they probably just don't have a clue what a pleasure it is, and what a hard life it is, to be a homosexual.

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I'm happy enough with the gay pride celebrations that go on, and with the little rainbow triangle on my page, and I'm not even gay. It's not like there's really any need to promote tolerance of heterosexuals when it's already the norm, but until equal rights include GLBT people, gay pride, and tolerance education have their place.
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Personally I agree with what Ms. Scarlet and a few other people have said about your orientation is just the way you are...not something a person is nescesarily proud of (doesn't mean they can't be of course). I just don't understand why strait pride offended and insulted some of you who have gay pride.

If homosexual people can have gay pride, then why can't heterosexual people have straight pride.

[This message has been edited by Jake Hopkins (edited 08-08-2001).]


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All I have to say is that as long as they are not interfering with my fight for my equal rights to marry my partner, and a white pickett fence, and my golden retriever, I say more power to them. Kind of senseless though since they are the "silent majority"...no one has gotten on their case about who they bring into their bedrooms...why not keep silent? I am not going to get upset at them, even if they are mocking our movement, because that would be giving them what they want. I say everyone's ideas are worth hearing, just as long as they aren't psychotic...meaning ideas of genocide, or hurting someone physically.

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WannabeArtist
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For the most part I'm against pride in something that you're born with. Black history month has always irked me in that it seems to me the ultimate goal should be equality. Alloting one month to black people seems to imply that the others are reserved for whites. Also, it only serves to segregate things further. However, in the case of gay pride, I feel that in many ways, the GLBT community faces more discrimination (and legalized discrimination in some cases, such as marriage rights) than any other minority population. While I don't really condone the idea of pride in something that I do believe is not a choice, pride in oneself, for whoever that person may be is another matter altogether. Which is why I feel that I can take part in gay pride, despite being only very slightly bi. (I'm proud of who I am, and I fight for gay rights.)...this was my first post...hope it wasn't too scattered.

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The only item I've seen that's vaguely "straight pride"ish that appealed to me is a shirt that says "Straight But Not Narrow" on it. A friend of mine has it, and I've seen at least a few other shirts/pins bearing that motto at various GBLTA events.

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