I've just had it in cereal so far, save for a little taste from the adventurous boyfriend's glass. I don't know whether I like it or not. it's pretty good, doesn't give me that horrible mucus-y feeling, but it's still very weird.

rice milk tastes too watery to me. and gritty. it made my mouth feel pretty disgusting. also, it is definitely *not* intended for consumption by infants (there have been some cases of well-meaning vegan parents who tried to sub rice milk for dairy milk and their babies became malnourished and even died in one case).

haven't tried oat or almond milk.

I like Rice Dream in Chocolate, and almond milk is fabulous in coffee (incidentally, Silk also makes soy coffee creamer that is to die for).

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I have been drinking dairy milk alternatives for some time now (6 years) and so whatever was an aquired taste has been aquired. :-)

I did drink some rice milks and almond milks in the past but I don't remember much about them.

I do drink only fortified milks -that is important to me.

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while we're at it, could someone post a tasty veg nog recipe in the RECIPES thread?

Rice ice cream's good stuff too, I'm not fond of soy milk, but it makes me sick anyway, so it's not something I'm going to bother trying to like.

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There are oat and rice milk recipes here. I haven't tried either, and the rice milk sounds like it could benefit from straining before use, but they might be worth a try.

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thanks, you guys, for your recommendation. I haven't had milk since I posted this - I've been quite happy with the Silk soymilks - and the one time I slipped and ate cheese, I paid for it the next day. ugghh.

Was the easiest thing I ever did. I have no desire to EVER eat the stuff again and experience how that feels in my system and what that does to my body.

So strnge, really, some of these changes you make for habits you never realized caused you that much yuckiness.

Just FYI: I think Silk is the best brand of soymilk out there. They also make a coffee creamer that is totally perfect and rich and delightful. And a soy egg nog around the holidays.

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[B]Soymilk is so much cheaper than dairy, at least here![B]

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the almond milk i make myself at home, so can't give a brand name to try.

I can't stand cow milk. I am not warm on the thought of drinking cow excrement (yet I breastfed! but somehow it seems different) I hate the image in my head of cows being pumped of their milk, I hated pumping breastmilk, so it seems so much more awful for a cow. Plus, it just doesn't taste all that great to me.

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Originally posted by anahati:
Potato milk can be bought in some places, like in health food stores or perhaps the organic market of Safeway.

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whoa, potato milk? I can't believe I've never heard of that!

I'm partial to chocolate Silk myself. mmmm. I started drinking soy milk a couple years ago and I tried some awful stuff before I found Silk. But likely it wasn't actually that bad, my tastes have completely changed since then. I still remember the day when my brother convinced me to try a sip of cow milk one day,(I'm not strictly a vegan, so it wasn't really an issue, just an experiment) and what I had forgotten was the taste! and the smell. ugh, the smell! i never noticed it when I drank it all the time, though I did notice the bloating and discomfort lol
Right now I'm actually drinking a glass of vanilla Silk. I love how much calcium I can get from it!

Bought rice milk and almond milk last night, and like both pretty well. The rice milk (Trader Joe's Basmati stuff, which was $1.09 for a litre, but might have been on sale) does indeed taste like rice, but is pretty pleasant, and would probably be good on cereal. It's thin, but no worse than skim milk, and not grainy. The almond stuff (same as Laura mentioned) is thicker, more cream than white in colour, and a bit sweet, since it's vanilla (didn't have plain). It was $1.69 for a litre. Both packages said they'd keep 7-10 days after opening, and unopened, would last well into the summer.

It took more of both milks than it did normal milk to lighten tea, but the almond milk tasted really good and convincing, whereas the rice milk just made the tea taste like rice. Haven't tried either in chocolate yet, but the almond milk would most likely be good, and I'm not sure about the rice milk. Anyway, buy the almond milk to put in hot drinks, and the rice milk to drink as-is, or on grainy cereals. Neither tasted weird or icky, though I guess it helpd to not expect them to taste like the usual stuff.

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Yes, Almond milk [or mylk, as some prefer] is made from almonds. You can actually make it at home, quite easily. Take about a cup of almonds, put them in a jar, cover with water and soak over night. (Or just for 8-12 hours, whichever. Its nothing scientific or exact.)

Next day, put the soaked almonds, which will have expanded to about twice their size and will look roundly plump, in your blender with 2-3 cups of water. Blend, blend, blend until smooth. You can add 1/4-1/2 tsp. of vanilla, and 1 T. of honey, or sugar, or stevia, or whatever, for flavoring.

At this stage, all of the almond "pulp" will still be in the liquid, and you can strain it through a colander or somesuch to remove the pulp to give it the 'smooth' mouth-feel that we associate with milk.

I tend to leave the pulp in, 'cause I don't mind it - but be warned, it will be quite gritty and not at all like milk if you don't strain it.

Its really quite simple to make, even though I used all those words. (You soak the almonds because they blend up better that way - any shelled nuts you buy from the store dry out and loose moisture the longer they sit in the warehouse and store shelf, and take a lot more from your blender to make a -smooth- milk.

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I had a carton of hazelnut milk too, but it looked funky when I opened it so I didn't try it.

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[This message has been edited by alan 182 (edited 05-22-2004).]

More info on men and soy: http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=312211 and http://vegweb.com/articles/monique-1009660779.shtml

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Just FYI: there's no reason men can't drink soy milk. Phytoestrogens and actual estrogen aren't the same thing, and panic over men eating soy is generally bunk, with no scientific or medical foundation. And in fact, soy may give very important health benefits to men, such as: http://my.webmd.com/content/article/84/98308.htm

More info on men and soy: http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=312211 and http://vegweb.com/articles/monique-1009660779.shtml

Obviously, if you prefer the others, great. But if you don't want to, there's no reason to limit soy products because you're male.

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I hated soya milk when I first tried it. I can now tolerate the sweetened ones. I got on much better with rice milks. I like Rice Dream and Provamel rice milk that we have here. I recently discovered I like So Good soya milk, it's the only soya milk I ever actually liked.

I eat some goat's and sheep's products because they are supposed to be less problematic if cow's milk disagrees with you. Tried soya cheese once and found it was truly disgusting to me!

Still eat things which have a bit of cow's milk in them, otherwise I find it too restrictive for my liking.

So to continue with the healthier living, bit by bit, I stopped by Whole Foods and got Almond Breeze in Vanilla. I used to have Silk Soymilk in Vanilla but I couldn't grow a taste for it. Almond Breeze I definitely enjoy more, and will buy the $1.79 liters myself, I guess, since no one else in my family is interested in drinking non-dairy stuff.

I am dying to try almond milk, now, and since I do my heavy-duty good-food shopping at Whole Foods or Trader Joe's I should be able to find it. I'm actually curious to try making it myself, too.

I have never been able to stand soy milk, any of the multiple times I've tried it. Plus, I'm a weirdo, and have NEVER liked chocolate milk, so flavoring in general has never been something I like in milk.

The only soda I ever drink is Blue Sky when it's around and Izze brand sodas (made with real fruit juice, the grapefruit is totally yummy), and that's only two or three times a week AT MOST. I don't drink a lot of coffee at all, and prefer green or black tea (studies are now showing that black tea has many of the same antioxidents and benefits of green tea) in the morning. My favorite is Assam black tea with a little honey and milk. YUM.

I also buy all my fruits and veggies (except for frozen strawberries and bananas because I make smoothies too often) at Whole Foods or Trader Joe's, since they're just better quality all around than the quick-ripening-then-spoiling yucky produce at our local grocery store.