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SexyChik911
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posted 05-14-2003 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SexyChik911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok i may seem really weird and I AM NOT GAY but i think guys have really really really ugly geitals.. im sorry if i have offended any guys but i reallythink re ugly am i wid dos anyone else feel like this

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frozendreams
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posted 05-14-2003 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frozendreams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nevermind

[This message has been edited by frozendreams (edited 05-14-2003).]

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negative*nancy
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posted 05-14-2003 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for negative*nancy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe 'guys' aren't the only ones you should be worried about offending.

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Aria51
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posted 05-14-2003 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aria51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are they supposed to look like? Flowers? Teddy bears? Genitals look like genitals. How would you feel if someone came here and said, "Gee, I think girls have really really ugly genitals." You'd feel pretty offended and unsure of yourself, wouldn't you?

Humans look the way humans look because that's the way humans are supposed to look. How pretty or ugly something is to you depends completely on how you've been programmed to feel by outside sources, and how you feel inside your own head. The way someone's genitals developed can't change; what can change is your perception of what is truly ugly and what is not.

Personally, I think there isn't anything ugly about the human body. What I do think is ugly is when humans feel the need to degrade other peoples' bodies to make themselves feel better, and when humans feel the need to put clauses such as "I AM NOT GAY" in a message that has not one single thing to do with being homosexual.

Why do you feel the need to announce to us whether or not you are homosexual? Why do you feel the need to say it in such a negative way?

Perhaps you'd do well to take the time you've been wasting thinking about how ugly someone's genitals are and take a good, long look at why you think they're "ugly", and what "ugly" truly is. See the world with a fresh pair of eyes, and you'll notice there are more important things out there than how visually appealing someone's private parts are.

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SexyChik911
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posted 05-15-2003 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SexyChik911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry but thatsjust how i feel..... and i said WHEN I POSTED that im sorry if i offened anyone. i asked if u think im weird for saying that cuz i thought no one else wold really think that and i thought i was kinda weird for saying that

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logic_grrl
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posted 05-15-2003 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for logic_grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing is, tacking on "sorry if I offended anyone" or "that's just how I feel" doesn't make it okay to say something offensive.

(Imagine if someone said "I think your genitals are really really really ugly". How would that make you feel? Would it magically make you feel better if they added "that's just how I feel"?)

Nor does it take away the insult in stating "I AM NOT GAY" as if being gay - or having someone think you might be gay - would be the most horrific and embarrassing thing in the world.

If you want to discuss your feelings of discomfort about male genitals and why you might feel that way, that's one thing. As Aria says, the issue here is your perceptions. But you need to think about how you express yourself.

Just posting stuff like "i think guys have really really really ugly genitals" is not okay.

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Miz Scarlet
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posted 05-15-2003 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miz Scarlet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's most important has been said already, but what I'd suggest you examine is WHY you might feel that way.

For instance, it may be that you aren't at a level of maturity or readiness to be looking at other people's genitals just yet -- finding them "really ugly" would be pretty symptomatic of that in the same way that kids in the third grade tend to go "Eeeew!" when they see people kissing.

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SexyChik911
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posted 05-15-2003 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SexyChik911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again.... i totally agree with all of you.... and i was very offensive but i promise i didnt mean it to be. and im 15 and im not at all immiture i can assure you.. and maybe i just looked at th wrong genitals lol..... becuase my ex's.. well i wont get int it lol butmaybe it was him.. i know ur thinking..... ok......? but im sorry vry sorry and mayb i just looked at the worng ones ok

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Miz Scarlet
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posted 05-15-2003 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miz Scarlet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I'm willing to bet that your ex's genitals didn't look unlike most male genitals do, and that the 'right" genitals wouldn't look all that different.

Usually, when we most quickly deny the possibility of something is when we should look at it all the harder. Or, as good William once said, "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

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logic_grrl
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posted 05-16-2003 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for logic_grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As we've said, if you want to talk about your feelings of discomfort and maybe begin to figure out why you feel this way about male genitals, that's fine. Feeling uncomfortable about things, rationally or not, doesn't make you a bad person. And if you want to discuss it, we're here for ya .

But the issue here is your feelings and perceptions, and blaming it on other people's bodies by saying that maybe you feel this way because you looked at the "wrong genitals" and "maybe it was him" is missing the point.

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SexyChik911
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posted 05-16-2003 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SexyChik911     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your posts and i stll am very sorry for what i said

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Dans Girl_friend
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posted 05-16-2003 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dans Girl_friend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think sexychick should apolagise at all.

It is very common for poeple to find the genitals of men and women unattractive, especially when you see some porno pics of them.

My boyfriend says he often finds pics of women's genitals unattractive and I assure you he IS hetrosexual.


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logic_grrl
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posted 05-16-2003 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for logic_grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saying "I don't find pornographic pictures of genitals attractive" or "I feel uncomfortable with the way male genitals look" is a totally different issue from announcing that you think certain people have "really really really ugly genitals".

I don't know of any evidence to support your claim that "it is very common for poeple to find the genitals of men and women unattractive".

Genitals look like genitals, as Aria said. That's the deal. And being able to cope with that fact is a fairly essential part of being ready to be sexually active with a partner.

You don't have to think that genitals are the prettiest part of the human body. Whether you find someone's genitals attractive or not may depend entirely on whether you find the person attached to them attractive or not.

But if you're regularly experiencing revulsion at perfectly normal and healthy human body parts or obsessing about how ugly they are, I'd say it's time to check your sexual maturity.

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Dans Girl_friend
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posted 05-17-2003 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dans Girl_friend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the way sexychick feels is that images of mens genitals are unatractive for her, not that the gentitals of any boyfriend she might have now on in the future are unatractive.

If sexychick is still reading this thread, please contribute more.

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jja
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posted 05-17-2003 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think that the human body is a beautiful thing. And I feel your immaturity is showing by saying they're "ugly"

Another thing why do you feel the need to make a point of saying you're heterosexual?

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Miz Scarlet
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posted 05-17-2003 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miz Scarlet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the record, most people would not have severe aversion to genitalia of a gender they were not attracted to, just a general sexual disinterest (believe me when I tell you that lesbian mothers are not cringing at their son's genitalia). So, whatever a person's orientation, it's largely irrelevant with something like this.

In the same way that, say, a person just not interested in BDSM would simply be disinterested, the same would follow here. Which is yet another reason to pay attention to very strong aversions -- they do tend to signal either a lack of sexual maturity or an emotional/psychological issue needing address.

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Mehitabelle
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posted 05-20-2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mehitabelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, sexychick, i thought that too at first- well, not so much that they are ugly, but that they're kind of ridiculous-looking, with a bit of ugly thrown in. I think part of it is when you see them they look different than you expect them to; there's all kinds of veins, and things. Part of it, too, I think, is that at the heart of it it is pretty strange to think that some people have different stuff between their legs than you do.
Anyway, I worried about it, too, and thought there was something wrong with me, and that maybe I just couldn't relate to men properly cos I like girls too...don't worry. You get used to it. Now I think they're kind of cute, and pretty sometimes. Thinking of an erect penis as a powerful sexual symbol (like that chalk guy on the side of that cliff in England) rather than a turkey-neck-lookin' pink appendage helped a lot.
From what I've heard and read, a lot of women have that reaction; it's not weird at all, and there's nothing wrong with it, necessarily. Don't worry.

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Neros_Neptune
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posted 05-21-2003 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neros_Neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried explaining to my boyfriend that penises look happy but he thought I was crazy

But they do, they seem so happy, maybe because they react haha. I don't know, just if body parts had emotions, the penis would be happy. I think.

whoa that was weird.

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Dans Girl_friend
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posted 05-21-2003 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dans Girl_friend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mehitabelle do you mind! Think of our Queen!

Over here in blighty we have NO penises erect or floppy on any cliffs.

You are refering to the "Cern Abbas Giant" that is on the side of a hill - well inland.

It is maintained by local young virgin girls and boys every summer during their school holidays.

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Mehitabelle
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posted 05-21-2003 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mehitabelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My apologies, all you Brits...I meant hill; the image in my head of the guy was clearly one of a hill; my stupid mind not telling me that cliffs aren't green. My apologies.

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