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Pixie69
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posted 06-11-2001 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pixie69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, this is a little late, but you know in the past there was a lot of controversy about certain FICTIONAL charecters on kids TV shows, saying that they're gay, which is a bad influence on the children. Did you have any queer people/TV charecters/movie charecters around for your childhood? How did that effect you? Do you think it effects most kids?

I can't say that I really remember having any gay people around when I was a kid, although I always thought that Blossom and Six from the show Blossom were having a little behind the scenes fun. As to how television and queerness effect children, I don't think it really does. They're not going to think "that's dirty and wrong" unless someone tells them that it is. And if they end up being gay, they'll think that they're "dirty and wrong" because someone told them another gay person was that way too. Which leads to a lot of icky feelings...

As for the teletubies, they have no genitals, they have no gender, and they have no sex lives. I think without those three things it's hard to call them gay.

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PixieDust
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posted 06-11-2001 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieDust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...I have to play the devils advocate here. In no way do I feel that the television is influencing them to be gay. If anything it influences them to be who they really are, and I am sorry, but Ellen was my role model in the 7th grade. Without being able to laugh about my sexuality with her making her little jokes, I don't think I would have survived (I usally cried about my sexuality.)
So what I was going to say is children are actually proven to be the most influenced at the ages of 7 or 8. And my little (yes, very little) train of thought just left the station without me, so I don't know where it was heading. Just go along with it.

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Gaffer
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posted 06-11-2001 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gaffer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that television shows will merely give them exposure to diversity. Seeing a gay character in a movie led me to consider my sexual orientation in a way I hadn't before. It did not "make" me to be gay. All it did was help me figure out who I was by showing me all the different people out there and letting me come to the conclusion of who I am by looking at everyone else and who they are.

Like what's his name on Dawson's Creek, the guy who kissed another guy at the prom, I don't think anyone's orientation will change because they saw that--but a couple of kids will realize that all along they felt that way. This post is making less and less sense even to me as I type on, so I'll stop now.

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CuriouS GeorgE
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posted 06-15-2001 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriouS GeorgE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kinda agree here with Pixiedust. I don't think that a television show can make someone change their sexuality automatically. I think that's nonsense!! I do believe however, that maybe seeing or hearing about being bi/les/gay people on television shows can maybe encourage someone to sit down and really start thinking about their sexuality. I can't speak really from personal experience, because that's not really how I got to thinking about being bisexual. I guess for me, it was a mix of things. It kinda began with becoming more open with my own sexuality. Then my friend starting talking about bisexual encounters and other things like that, then me trying not to hide feelings I had for women, and lastly (but definitly not least) finding this glorious webpage!! (Believe it or not!)
I absolutely LOVED this webpage when I found it (and I still do!) I owe it all to my health teacher who recommended it for a project. This place really got me thinking about myself and I realized that it's ok to be different. (Different as in sexual orientation because, lol, I'm already unique!) So thanks Scarleteen!! I love this place!!
ANYWAYS! Bottom line, I don't think watching two guy kiss can make you gay or ANYTHING like that!!!

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Pixie69
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posted 06-15-2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pixie69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey hey! I said the same thing PixieDust said! You're agreeing with me too! I said it wouldn't effect the kids unless someone told them what to think about it (like, if a kid is watching Will and Grace, and their parents come up and change the channel and say "don't watch those sinners") then it'll effect them. We're all on the same boat

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Gaffer
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posted 06-15-2001 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gaffer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I said the same thing too. So we're in agreement, right?

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TenohSetsuna
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posted 12-02-2001 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TenohSetsuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think watching a TV show is going to change anyone's orientation. If anything, gay characters on TV are only going to make kids more open minded. I being an anime freak, I see lots of shows that have *drum roll* homosexual characters. A lot of them were meant for kids, and somehow I don't see all the little kids in Japan somehow becoming gay all of a sudden. Gay characters aren't going to "hurt" kids at all.
--Haruka

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sapphirecat
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posted 12-02-2001 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sapphirecat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was into BDSM and crossdressing long before I had words for the actions or feelings. Nothing I saw on TV or in books would've influenced me one way or the other.

It would be nice if we didn't have that crossdressing==gay idea. Perhaps the media could be the promoters of Truth and Knowledge for a change?

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Dude_who_writes
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posted 12-05-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dude_who_writes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I absolutely LOVED this webpage when I found it (and I still do!)

I totally agree with you, George! This site is the first place that I've ever been COMPLETLY truthful about my sexuality. But, I digress.

I agree with just about every other responder on this post: television shows won't influence children to be gay, but their parents/guardian's reactions will affect how they feel about gay, lesbian, or bisexual people. For me, though, shows like Will & Grace, Ellen, and more importantly Queer as Folk (I'm a junkie) have given me rolemodels to look up to, and shown me that yes, homosexuals actually do exist, and I'm not totally alone, even though I may feel that way here in Hicksville USA.

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indigodazed
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posted 01-22-2002 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indigodazed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my parents always had a lot of GLBT friends, so I grew up surrounded by queer people. Therefore, I was never knew that anyone thought being gay was wrong. Imagine my shock upon entering school. I can't think of any TV/movie characters at the moment, although I'm sure that there were some. Except Bert and Ernie.

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TenohSetsuna
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posted 01-22-2002 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TenohSetsuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
B-b-b-b-er-er-t-t a-and E-e-ernie? *faints* Oh, dear god, my yaoi/yuri sublot conspiracy is correct. Did I mention my namesake, Haruka, and the red Tellitubbie(no, NOT the purple one)? Yeah, they're queer.

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indigodazed
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posted 01-22-2002 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indigodazed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was talking about when I was a young child. Teletubbies weren't around then. And I hadn't yet discovered anime.

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TenohSetsuna
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posted 01-23-2002 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TenohSetsuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*hugs indigodazed* Otaku power! God, I'm happy to see we've got representation around here. More queer anime characters? Well, here goes. Haruka, Michiru, Zoicite, Kunzite, Fisheye, Cain, Shido, Juri, half the people at Ohtori Academy in Revolutionary Girl Utena, Satsuki, Sorata, Gingetsu, Lan, Kamui, Fuuma... I could be here typing for hours.

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"I never said I was a boy." - Tenoh Haruka, episode 92, Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon

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indigodazed
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posted 01-23-2002 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indigodazed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay! I love hugs!

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TenohSetsuna
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posted 01-23-2002 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TenohSetsuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"I never said I was a boy." - Tenoh Haruka, episode 92, Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon

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kythryne
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posted 01-24-2002 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kythryne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, TenohSetsuna and indiodazed? I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but this is veering a bit off topic, I'm afraid.

Please feel free to carry on the discussion on anime -- queer and otherwise -- in All About You if you wish...

Thanks.

Kyth

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TenohSetsuna
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posted 01-24-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TenohSetsuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Kythryne, we'll shut up. Sorry.

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Slayer_gurl
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posted 01-26-2002 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slayer_gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember the first time I heard the word gay being used was on Murphy Brown, when they were "accusing" one of their co-workers of being gay. I didn't think there was anything dirty about it, until I told my best friend about it, who was two years older and she told me that the word for a gay female was a very very dirty word. That affected me, and it did for a long time, up until about last year, when I was freaking out over who I am. So, what I'm trying to say, in a very roundabout way is that I totally agree with both of the pixies and George,. The program won't affect kids, its what's said about them that will.

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