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Member # 3
posted 11-02-2012 01:56 PM
For our U.S. based users of voting age, we were finally able to get our voting guide out today. Bit later than we'd hoped, but it's still there for all of you who want or need it:
http://www.scarleteen.com/article/etc/the_2012_scarleteen_us_presidental_election_voting_guide_0 We very much hope all of you voting this year will inform yourselves and take the time both to vote and to vote thoughtfully.
Member # 79774
posted 11-02-2012 07:37 PM
That's awesome. Even for a non-US-voting person, it's really good to have things summarised like that, particularly with a slant to topics relevant to this site. That must have taken some work. Thank you!
May I ask a question - "Civil Rights", here, I'm guessing that has to be referring to racial equality issues? Obviously I am aware of what the original civil rights movement was; but currently in the UK, usage of the phrase seems to have broadened a lot, close to a simile of "human rights" - for example, I keep seeing marriage equality being described as a "civil rights issue".
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Member # 44338
posted 11-02-2012 07:46 PM
I love this!
Do you know if there is anywhere that does something similar to this for Canadian elections whenever they roll around the next time (here in Ontario there is going to be one by spring most likely for the Premier since Dalton McGuinty prorogued Parliament) and it will be the first election I can vote in. I know that things work a lot differently here since we never vote directly for the Prime Minister, but that link was really, really informative and would have helped me solidify my decision if I lived in the US. Also, I really want to encourage all of those who can to vote in all the elections that take place in your Country. Your voice matters and politics do concern you. The bills and laws that politicians pass affect your life, so make sure that you vote for someone who's decisions you can live with. And please, don't vote for someone just because it's who your parents are voting for. If you vote for that person, vote for them because you think that they are the best candidate. Super excited to see the results of the American Election. (Also super disgusted at how much money the candidates spend on their campaigns, without a spending limit the amount spent per year just goes up and up and up). (And I'm sorry if any of this comes out sounding preachy or obnoxious, I've been having a lot of trouble putting my words together properly online and I think it might be time for me to re-visit whether or not I should be spending so much time online).
Member # 3
posted 11-02-2012 07:49 PM
Thanks, Redskies! It is always an unreal amount of work, but well worth it, I think.
(Seeing our front page poll showing some users plan to vote for Romney tells me that, honestly.) When we say civil rights (often paired with liberties) here stateside, we usually do mean more human rights. While the Civil Rights Movement was about race, and by all means, civil rights absolutely includes issues of race, it's not just that. LGBTQ rights would typically fall under that umbrella, as would things like immigrant rights, the rights of children and minors, all of our constitutional rights (like freedom of speech and assembly) and some more. More technically or literally, I believe it's simply about rights or privileges which are supposed to be givens for all citizens of a nation.
Member # 79774
posted 11-02-2012 08:09 PM
Heather - oh, ok. I wondered because a number of specific rights issues have their own categories, and I wasn't sure if they would then also come into an umbrella category. Also because some people are very pro some kinds of civil rights while being very anti others (freedom of speech to spread untruth and hatred about immigrants and/or LGBTQ folk, for example...)
Member # 96773
posted 11-03-2012 12:41 AM
Hey Redskies, I think the idea of "civil rights" as an umbrella category may seem less potentially confusing (eg when applied to real-world voting interests) if you just look at the term in a really basic, technical way.
Without passing relevant legislation to civilly protect a "human right," no matter how recognized it may be by some as a naturally-inferred, innate right, in a strictly practical sense, for all real-world-applied intents and purposes, it may not exist. That is, "human rights" are ideals easily dismissed, ignored, and/or abused in certain societies, especially if there is no civil structure in place to provide legal protections for these rights. So, "civil rights" include any/all human rights that have a past, current, or future case/role in the struggle to be granted civil protections that appropriately reflect the right. So yes, there are definitely people who are very pro certain civil rights while being anti others- but that not only doesn't negate these rights as human OR in-the-future/currently civil but also, I kinda think that those kinds of exclusive beliefs are exactly why pursuing civil protection for all human rights is so important. [ 11-03-2012, 12:49 AM: Message edited by: Claire P. ]
Member # 79774
posted 11-03-2012 08:43 AM
Claire - Aha. That makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you very much!
Member # 41657
posted 11-04-2012 06:25 AM
Thankyou for posting this, but there didn't really seem to be much, if any information about the policies of the parties on welfare? I don't live in the u.s. but if I did I'd want to know whether my disability benefits were supported by the candidates.
Member # 3
posted 11-06-2012 02:20 PM
Member # 95710
posted 11-06-2012 09:50 PM
Thank you so much for making that document and the chart on what each candidate and political party supports and opposes. I am Canadian but I do feel connected to the States as my father was born there; but I admitedly am not well-versed in either Canadian or American government and elections, so this chart helped me.
I was quite shocked to see what differentiated Obama and Romney in terms of what they advocated for. Simply put, if I was an American, I would know who I would've voted for thanks to your site. Thank you for the hard work you put into that document!