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donutduchess
Member # 4675
posted 08-14-2001 01:53 AM
Hey guys!Well me and my bf really got into a tense convo tonight. We were talking about him loosing his virginity, and everything else.
I was asking about stds and aids and he said he was clean. And the reason he knows that is cuz he donated blood, and they never called him back saying he was positive. Does that mean hes set!? Or should he go for more testing? He said hell go if I want him to. Thanks guys!
Girl, Interrupted
Member # 5162
posted 08-14-2001 02:01 AM
If he's willing to go like you said he was, why not take him up on that offer just to be sure? It's better to be safe than sorry. Perhaps you could get yourself tested at the same time, to reassure him as well.------------------ ~Lissa
donutduchess
Member # 4675
posted 08-14-2001 02:08 AM
Good idea... Maybe we could make it like a date thingy! (even tho Im a virgin) But I guess I should take him up on it!
Beppie
Member # 94
posted 08-14-2001 03:34 AM
Hey, good on you for thinking about STDs/STIs! It's a great idea for both of you to get tested before you engage in sexual activity, and while AIDS testing is very important, there are a range of other STDs/STIs that you both need to be tested for as well. And for yourself, remember that just because a disease can be transmitted sexually, doesn't mean that you can't get it in other ways, so you definitely need testing too!I love the idea of making a date of it. Maybe the two of you could go out after the tests to congratulate yourselves.
Remember though, you'll still have to use condoms for all forms of sex at least until you've been monogamous for a year and tested twice, with both tests at least six months apart. And even after that, since nothing is 100% reliable, it's a good idea to keep using them.
donutduchess
Member # 4675
posted 08-14-2001 11:13 AM
Thanks guys!!! One question tho... Does that mean he is safe from not having aids? I am like really paraniod about that. Thanks again!
Milke
Member # 961
posted 08-14-2001 12:38 PM
If he tests clean twice, he's more than likely just fine. Still, condoms are very effective against most STI's, including HIV, so I'd say if you've got both them and negative tests, your peace of mind should be fine too. In my experience, making a date of this sort of thing works really well. Getting the tests done can be a bit stressful, but knowing that the testing, or getting the results, will be followed by pizza and pastries makes it so much nicer.
Brenda_91
Member # 3771
posted 08-14-2001 12:43 PM
Not necessarily. There are many safe "outs" if you will, in giving blood. They give you a questionnaire asking you about risk activities you may be involved in. When they test you for enough iron content to give, they give you a yes, use my blood sticker, or a no, don't use my blood sticker to put on your bag of donated blood. Then they still test the blood for AIDS. However, this doesn't rule out your partner having AIDS. They don't test the blood and *tell* you whether or not you have AIDS. Testing's done long after you're gone, and I don't think they tell you if your blood has the AIDS virus in it; they just get rid of the infected blood. Be safe and get testing done. This will clear up *any* STDs you may be worried about. -Karyn
justagirl04
Member # 3824
posted 08-14-2001 02:45 PM
I would have him go get the blood tests, just in case. Better safe than sorry!!! ------------------ Farewell, goodbye God knows we try Our young are so unsure Could never endure
So we turn the page And say goodbye And walk away from Everything that we Worked so hard to save
I don't wanna start all over And try and find another Shoulder to lean on... 'Cause yours made me feel safe
~*SHaNNa*~
Laughs_Wisely
Member # 2610
posted 08-15-2001 03:50 PM
Here, at least, they do call and tell you if you test HIV positive...
Brenda_91
Member # 3771
posted 08-16-2001 09:51 AM
Really? I'm thinking they don't here, because when I gave blood, there were so many ways to pull your blood out of the bank, even if you still gave. I can't see why they would call you then if you never told them to not to use your blood... I'm going to do some reseach on the Red Cross website. -Karyn
SolitaryTear
posted 09-14-2001 03:37 AM
Just remember that HIV can go undetected for up to 20 years.------------------ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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perish
Member # 5270
posted 09-14-2001 08:38 AM
i suggest that you get him tested for everything. the test for gonorrhea at planned parenthood involves them jamming a cuetip into the penis. quite painful. if he's willing to have his penis poked and prodded for you it's a pretty good sign. you should be aware that hiv can potentially go undetected in a blood test for up to 6 months. so the thing to do would be to wait until it has been 6months from his last intercourse, then go have the tests done.
Milke
Member # 961
posted 09-14-2001 10:11 AM
Solitary, where are you getting your info?Perish, good point, but really, he should be willing to endure a swab for his own sake, too! I know it's not pleasant (I've seen it done, seen the ensuing facial expression, and refusal to walk anywhere far for a while afterwards), but the idea of living with a potentially damaging disease in your system seems worse.
SolitaryTear
posted 09-14-2001 02:49 PM
Milke, I am studying as we speak to be a registered nurse, possibly specializing in gynocology, in by text book it says, HIV is such a sneaking disease, that it can go undetected for up to 20 years, which is also very rare, but there have been cases.------------------ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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SolitaryTear
posted 09-14-2001 02:52 PM
Accident double post[This message has been edited by SolitaryTear (edited 09-14-2001).]
Milke
Member # 961
posted 09-14-2001 06:25 PM
Solitary Tear, I'd just like to know which text you're using.
SolitaryTear
posted 09-14-2001 07:42 PM
First Aid for the NCLEX-RN (National Council Licensure Examination-Registered Nurse) 2ND BK&DSK------------------ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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BruinDan
Member # 3072
posted 09-14-2001 09:16 PM
Wow, Solitary, I'll admit to never having heard that before...and thumbing through my friend's NCLEX-RN, I couldn't find that data either. Can you point me in the right direction please?------------------
[This message has been edited by BruinDan (edited 09-26-2002).]
SolitaryTear
posted 09-15-2001 12:47 AM
I can't remember the page.... I think it was somewhere in the back. Oh yeah, and call up a doctor tomorrow, ask him/her about how long HIV or AIDS can go undetected, they will say "up to 20 years". My old friend's aunt's uncle was diagnosed with AIDS, they said he got it supposedly from an infected needle 20 years ago and it went undetected. The reason why they even brought that up then, was because there was a special on the discovery channel talking about how long HIV can go undetected. ------------------ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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SlowCookie
Member # 589
posted 09-15-2001 09:07 AM
SolitaryTear, if you can't find the page, look it up in the index. Or try the table of contents under HIV/AIDS. In manuals, it'll probably be a big section, with info on transmission, symptoms, treatment, etc.As for calling a doctor, I'm quite confident that if I asked any doctor, they would say that HIV can go undetected for 6 months, not 20 years. However, someone may have HIV for years before developing AIDS (Yes, HIV can be detected during this time. As for AIDS, it can't be dectected if it hasn't developed yet).
quote: How long after a possible exposure should I wait to get tested for HIV?The tests commonly used to detect HIV infection actually look for antibodies produced by your body to fight HIV. Most people will develop detectable antibodies within 3 months after infection, the average being 25 days. In rare cases, it can take up to 6 months. For this reason, the CDC currently recommends testing 6 months after the last possible exposure (unprotected vaginal, anal, or oral sex or sharing needles). It would be extremely rare to take longer than 6 months to develop detectable antibodies.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1680.50227 [This message has been edited by SlowCookie (edited 09-15-2001).]
Heather
Member # 3
posted 09-15-2001 10:47 AM
The first reported cases and studies of HIV/AIDS by the CDC were in 1981.Since it has not BEEN 20 years since those first reported cases, there is NO sound evidence -- nor any real way of acquiring such -- that the disease can go undetected in any patient for that period of time; that period of time has not passed yet in which to determine such a thing with ANY sample of the population sizeable enough for scientists to make a hypothesis which is accurate. We do have but a handful of cases which may show origins of the disease going back as far as the thirties, but those are in situ, thus we do NOT have accurate histories to determine anything but that they had the virus or antibodies.
Let's set this aspect of the discussion aside, because flatly, all it is going to do is to scare someone who was asking for very practical information, and it is not helping them at all with what they asked for: one should not consider the blood screenings given when donating blood to be valid STD and STI screenings. because STD and STI tests are specific, and involve more than blood tests, one should only consider oneself screened when those tests have been specifically done, and in full. As one of our volunteers stated, HIV is but one of many STDs and STIs, and there are others which are far more common in this age group, and just as damaging.
(And with that, and to keep on topic and avoid undue argument and undue scare tactics, the theoretical about the "20-year-issue" will come to an end. If you want to debate those sorts of issues, I'd suggest that you go to an epidemiology listserv.)
------------------Heather Corinna Editor and Founder, Scarleteen
My epitaph should read: "She worked herself into this ground." -- Kay Bailey Hutchinson
SolitaryTear
posted 09-15-2001 03:26 PM
Alright, Miz S, Sorry. I asked my instructor about that, we went back over the book, they said one case went undetected of the HIV virus for 20 years, I read it wrong, unfortunately, now I look like a fool. The funny thing is, the 20 year thing, the reason it went undetected, was because he hadn't even been tested. When I actually pointed this out to my instructor, Dr. Louis Ammea, his eyes dialated 10 inches (a hyperbole), he said, wow, I never even saw that, I asked him about it, and he did some research. He said that only one case went undetected, therefore the book said it can go undetected for 20 years. The guy my friend knew, I asked her mom yesterday afternoon what exactly happened, she said it took 19 years for HIV to become AIDS, or something like that. So, I'm sorry for any misdirections. I apologize sincerely.------------------ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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