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Member # 32276
posted 01-24-2007 07:33 PM
So yeah im thinking about becoming Vegetarian. My worry is well meat is a huge part of my diet. Basically in the house i live at we have meat for dinner every night. Now weve always been very organic, Like anything we buy is organic, we drink soy milk instead of regular milk. All the vegetables are organic. All of that stuff.
But I was just wondering if any of yall are vegans or Vegetarians and how hard was it in the beginning to switch over? Like someone keeps telling me theres different levels of being a vegetarian. Like I could still eat fish, cheese and eggs but Is that really still being vegetarian? So far today ive done good, I havnt had any meat/eggs/milk/cheese and im going to try to stick to this for like 2 weeks so I know if I can do this. But eggs and fish is it okay if I eat them?
Member # 3
posted 01-24-2007 07:44 PM
I never really ate much meat as a kid, and became vegetarian really young, so I didn't really have to deal with this, save when I went vegan and had to go off dairy.
And what I did was just to take plenty of time to do it gradually: over about two years, I ditched butter, then milk, then cheese, and finally yogurt. Since I gave myself plenty of time -- and since I felt so much better physically and intellectually about those changes -- it wasn't too big of a challenge. So, that's what I'd advise. take steps. Start maybe by removing one of the meats you care the least about -- and it might help to ask your family to help you stock up on meat replacements to have with dinners and other meals: sounds like getting that support given your family's diet shouldn't be too hard. Then when one out feels good, ditch another. Eating fish isn't a vegetarian diet: it's an animal. The term often used for those who eat fish but no other meats is pescatarian. For vegetarians who still eat eggs and milk, people often call it ovo-lacto vegetarian. Not eating any animal meat or using any animal products is veganism, or what some folks call non-dairy vegetarianism. But if you know fish and eggs are your weak spots, don't worry about those for now: work on ditching the other meats and when you've gotten to that point, then figure out if you want to ditch those as well.
Member # 22471
posted 01-24-2007 07:50 PM
This past year (August to be exact) I switched over to being a vegetarian, and am starting to slowly cut out dairy from my diet as well (I still eat cheese, but drink only soy milk and soy/tofu ice creams, etc.). I also don't eat gelatin. I still eat eggs, but that's because they're a good source of protein and I haven't really picked up the taste for the egg substitute yet.
The best advice I can give you, especially when you're starting out? Don't try to conform to a definition of vegetarianism - do what makes YOU feel best, and do it at a pace that is comfortable for you! If you want to start out slowly by just taking out mammals/poultry, start that way! Making the switch to vegetarianism, or even veganism, is actually not that difficult - the key is taking your time to adjust and knowing what sort of nutrients you still need to get and how to get them, and just sticking to it. To throw out some definitions for you, if it will help: -"Pescatarian" is the term used for people who are predominantly vegetarian, but who still eat fish/seafood. Technically, you're still eating meat, so it's not a very rigid definition of vegetarianism at all, but again, it's about what feels best for YOU. -"Octo/Lacto" Vegetarians are the most common type of vegetarians, probably. These are the type who do not eat any kind of meat, but who still eat dairy and eggs. Past that, there are different "levels" of commitment people make, which include other dietary changes (such as cutting out ANY animal products from your diet: eggs, dairy, gelatin, honey...) and the types of products you use (such as not using products which use leather or wool or certain tpyes of rubbers, etc.) But again, this is about YOU and what feels best for you. Don't let ANYONE try and tell you you're not doing enough or aren't "a real vegetarian" because you may eat a certain type of food another person doesn't. [ 01-24-2007, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: dailicious ]
Member # 32417
posted 01-24-2007 08:34 PM
For a comprehensive overview of Vegitarianism, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism. A solid overview of all the issues. Gothicguy
Member # 32184
posted 01-24-2007 08:43 PM
I became a vegetarian at 18, going on 5 and a half years ago. It was a really rough transition - I sort of did it cold turkey, and I caught a lot of flak about it from family and certain friends alike. I'll admit that I wasn't the strictest vegetarian in the world - I was an ovo-lacto that didn't read labels too carefully, so I'm sure I ingested gelatin in some quantity, and probably had some beef or chicken broth snuck in on me as well.
There was a really fab article in Seventeen several years ago that helped through the transition, that gave a breakdown of the different types of vegetarianism and some helpful tips for managing a proper diet. If I recall correctly (I don't want to go through back archives of a magazine I haven't read in years at this hour), the types go as such: Vegan- One who eats no animal based products at all. That means no dairy, no eggs, no meat (duh), no honey, no gelatin, etc. It's a very tough diet to keep, and it's pretty easy to malnourish yourself if you don't take vitamin supplements and keep an eye on your iron levels, protein intake, etc. Strict veganism is a subset of this wherein people don't wear leather or wool or use any animal products in addition to not eating them (also think tallow, which is used in soap). There are a lot of cruelty-free items out there if you look - if you want, I can do a quick search of them for you). Lacto-vegetarians- people who practice this diet drink milk and eat dairy products, but do not use eggs. Honey is a personal preference, as far as I understand. Ovo-Lacto-vegetarians- same as above, but add eggs into the mix. Pesco-vegetarian (or Pescatarian)- Veggies, dairy, eggs, and fish and seafood. I'm actually a pescatarian these days because I found it a little easier to stick to, and because fish is an excellent source of protein (and essential amino acids, which make up proteins), and also has heart-healthy fatty acids. My advice to you (much like the other advice you've received ( is to do what feels comfortable - if you feel you can't completely give up all animal products, then don't. And like dailicious said, DO NOT let anyone push you around for not eating meat, or let anyone try to tell you're not a vegetarian when you feel you are. Most importantly, however, MAKE SURE YOU'RE HEALTHY. I can't stress this enough - always make sure you're getting enough iron, calcium, proteins, and take your vitamins!
Member # 3
posted 01-24-2007 09:09 PM
quote: or let anyone try to tell you're not a vegetarian when you feel you are quote: Don't let ANYONE try and tell you you're not doing enough or aren't "a real vegetarian" because you may eat a certain type of food another person doesn't. I do want to inject something into this, because I do think it's important when we're talking about vegetarianism for ethical reasons, rather than human-health reasons.
Know, too, that I'm saying what I do as someone who, when I backslide, backslide to fish. As well, I'm one of those folks who feels that my choices are just that, and I wouldn't dream of prescribing a given diet or agenda to someone else because it's what I choose in this regard. I support whatever choices y'all make per what you eat. And like has been said, bullying is never okay under any guise, so hopefully it's obvious that if you're not choosing this for yourself, or what you choose for yourself is resulting in crap from others, tune that stuff out, because it isn't okay. But. It isn't vegetarian to eat fish. It really just isn't. It IS killing an animal for your own food (and, like a lot of farming for food, when you're not catching yourself, often involves other forms of cruelty to animals in addition to killing them -- the way fish are killed for transport is really awful as hell), and that's not vegetarian. And I think it's very important to make that distinction (or say, when someone says they're vegetarian but easts chicken routinely) IF your interest is in animal rights and is in humane eating for ethical or political reasons (rather than in your own health per what you're choosing to eat, as that is another matter), or you support those interests, because the political aims of vegetarianism and vegeanism really can't be reached if it's made vague that it's about not eating animals (and, in the case of veganism, their products), or if vegetarianism somehow includes the eating of some animals arbitrarily just because. The best analogy I can make here -- again, this is about the politics of the thing -- is if we said, for instance, "Okay, anyone can say they're pro-choice or be pro-choice is they're pro-pregnancy and adoption per all women, even if they are antiabortion per all or some women." In other words, if pro-choice meant only some choices, we couldn't very well hope to achieve full choice for all women that way. Make sense? I know full well that those times I do backslide and eat fish that I'm not keeping my vegan diet. I'm not. Now, I accept that you know, we all do the best we can and sometimes we fail, and that's just human and the world (I'm farily certain) will not end, I can renew my commitment and keep trying to keep with my veganism and NOT do that. Again, this isn't about my health: I'm vegan both for my health as well as per my ethics, politics and my spiritual tradition. If it's in no way about those latter things for you, then obviously this isn't a big issue. But I'd also encourage you and others NOT to loudly ID as vegetarian if you're really not, because it can take the steam out of what those who really are for political reasons are trying to do, if you get me (much in the same way that straight women IDing as lesbian because they like the handle but who are only ever partnered with men, only ever plan to be, blah blah blah can take important visibility away from lesbian women).
Member # 32276
posted 01-24-2007 10:00 PM
So thanks for all the responses I really appreciate it.
I think for sure im going to do this. Today I ate really healthy, Salad for lunch with no dressing and then I made Vegetable soup for everyone today. With all organic vegetables and it was a really good meal. I talked to my family about wanting to cut out meat and everything from my diet and there supportive of it. I figure this is just another step for me. Im already a big activist on alot of issues, And im a huge Feminist so I think being Vegetarian will be just another thing for me. Cause im so against the animal cruelty issues and have been pretty vocal about that but I was always eating meat so I felt like hm talk is cheap. So cutting out all this stuff is going to be good. I dont really need eggs, I never have them and seafood while its most def my fave I can go without easily. And milk im already drinking soy so thats a no brainer switch. Also after reading the descriptions I dont think it would be very hard for me to just be vegan. Im use to reading labels and making sure things arnt in the food I choose. Plus someone in my family is Vegan so they can help me out on understand what things I can eat and what I cant. Tomorrow Im going to go to our local store and try to buy some new things for the fridge that are vegan. Also Heather, I totally understand the whole pro-choice, lesbian analogy. I totally hate when people say there a lesbian and then there not but our only doing it to be cool. So many people I know do that. I cant stand it.
Member # 22471
posted 01-24-2007 10:07 PM
(Very true, Heather, pardon my wording was inaccurate. I've gotten into the middle of too many arguments where people were being put down as "not good enough" in choosing to eat things such as honey, to use one example, or in feeding their pets meat-based foods, etc.)
Member # 32184
posted 01-25-2007 09:24 AM
Whoops, I wasn't thinking too clearly about my wording. Obviously, if you're saying you're vegetarian through a big mouthful of steak (hypothetical situation with a general "you" here), then you need to take a step back and rethink what you've labelled yourself and whether you're going to actually stick to the diet you say you want to live by. Not that I think many people actually do that, mind.
But there are what are termed "semi-vegetarian" lifestyles (ie, only sometimes eating meat or being pesco/pollo-vegetarian), and Heather's right: they really aren't vegetarian except in name. I'm a pescatarian, but will sometimes call myself pesco-vegetarian because new people will sometimes understand the term more (I've gotten "All you eat is fish?!" more than a few times). I don't call myself a vegetarian anymore because, well, I'm not (if I came off as saying I still was, my mistake - I didn't proofread too well before posting last time). I've also used the word "semi-vegetarian" before and gotten blasted on the term, and have known people that caught flak for (like dailicious said) eating honey or eggs when another person who didn't eat those things found out. To me, that sort of thing isn't cool - it's letting someone else force their viewpoints on you, and being vegan or vegetarian or meatarian or whatever should be about what you want and believe in, not what someone else thinks. You seem to be coming at this from both a health and animal rights side, and you've definitely thought things through quite a bit a before deciding to take the plunge. It's great that you have such a good base of support, and people to look out for you. Be confident in your decision, and good for you - I hope things work out for you!
Member # 3
posted 01-25-2007 11:56 AM
Surfer, so awesome your family is going to be supportive: sounded like they would, and that's always such a big help. I'd say for teen veggies, lack of family support is usually the number on problem. If you want to incoporate more easy vegan things into your diet, I'd suggest getting hold of "How it All Vegan" and "The Garden of Vegan," two vegan cookbooks which I LOVE, mainly because unlike a lot of cookbooks, it's just just dinners, but breakfasts, snacks, sandwiches, the works. And all very easy to use. My publisher also recenly sent me "Vegan with a Vengeance" which I'm loving, but I'd say the former two books are better for newer cooks. Also, if you have a Trader Joe's nearby, there are a lot of vegean and vegetarian frozen foods which can be helpful in a pinch, especially on nights your family is eating something meat-based that can't be adapted for you easily. (One thing we do in my house, where I live with a carnivore, is to keep chiken breasts in the fridge of his, and lots of tofu, tempeh and seitan for me. Almost anything I make with those things can easily be swapped out for chicken for his meal when he's all meat-cravey. So, you can easily flip-flop meals for you that way, too: if your family is having roasted chicken, for instance, you can bake some tofu and share the same sides, etc.)
Member # 32276
posted 01-25-2007 04:52 PM
I actually already have the Garden of Vegan book. My aunt evidently bought it and she gave it to me last night when I told her I wanted to go Vegan.
Tonight Im making my family a whole bunch of vegan friendly snacks so while were watching Greys Anatomy they can eat some yummy food but I can also tell em that its all vegan. Which I made sure to tell them last night with the soup I had made. A very healthy meal and there pretty happy with all this because im cooking food and they dont have to cook so there loving it. Anyway Im making some Hummus and Bean dip for snacks today. I got some really good recipes in alot of vegan food online so im stoked on it. I also found a good "Rueben" sandwhich recipe. No rueben but it has avocado instead of the meat which sounds yummy and I cant wait to test it out. I dont live by a Traders Joe, Theres one in Seattle I know but since I have to take a ferry back it probably wouldnt be best to buy anything there. But we have a Town And Country market on the island with lots of organic/Vegan friendly food. A little pricey but thats where im shopping. Im actually really excited about all this. I mean now im really a true activist in about everything. Im a feminist, Im a Lesbian so ive been vocal in gay rights and now a Vegan. So many awesome protest/rallys I get to go to. :-P
Member # 3
posted 01-25-2007 04:58 PM
Rueben's are also AWESOME when you make them with tempeh: you just slice a block of tempen so you have a piece no thicker than a half inch or so, fry it up in some plive oil, then add sauerkraut, soy cheese and theousand island dressing, which can also be found in vegen-happy formulas.
Member # 32276
posted 01-25-2007 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heather: Rueben's are also AWESOME when you make them with tempeh: you just slice a block of tempen so you have a piece no thicker than a half inch or so, fry it up in some plive oil, then add sauerkraut, soy cheese and theousand island dressing, which can also be found in vegen-happy formulas. mm that sounds delicious.
One thing im looking forward too, is all the new versions of food I get to try out. :-D I love cooking so this should be fun.
Member # 32276
posted 01-26-2007 03:49 PM
So this is pretty amusing. Last night my mom came in my room and said "I saw you made Hummus" And I was like "yeah its good". Too which she said Im becoming a follower and what now im a Vegan too. actually in her own words "First you become a lesbian, And now your becoming a vegan, And dont try to tell me youve been thinking about being a vegan for years just like being a lesbian, If i remember correctly you were boy crazy"
I just started laughing when she said that and did short reply back of "Mom I was born a lesbian, Ive known Ive liked girls since I was a little kid. And now I have a girlfriend and I am happy in my life so I wish you could be happy for me. And as for being a Vegan Ive actually been contemplating switching over to healthy eating habits for the last few years. Now I dont understand how that makes me a follower but you can think what you want. I was hoping you would be supportive in the choices I make in my life from relationships to what I choose to put in my body. But if you dont want to be than fine. But I am me and this isnt some phase, so your going to need to learn to deal" Than she stormed out of my room. I guess shes going thru shock now. I only came out of the closet to her a few weeks ago and now shes freaking out about me being Vegan. Cause she honestly cant handle not having meat at dinner. I dont even know how to respond to her right now. Like she told me I was going to have to cook all my meals cause she doesnt care or want too. And its just a shock shes being like this. Any suggestions on how I can make her understand that being a Vegan isnt so bad. I know its not just the vegan thing that is bothering her but maybe If I can get her okay with that than she will chill out a bit.
Member # 3
posted 01-26-2007 03:53 PM
In my experience, this sort of interchange between parents and teens in healthy families is pretty common.
Part of why, I think, is that when you're a teenager, you're often SO intense about everything. (Y'all are seriously intense. I need walks outside myself sometimes working here.) And so much of what you choose to do is tied up in identity-seeking-and-finding, as well as whatever other motivators they are, so "I do," often is also very strongly "I am," even with things that are pretty brand new. (And nothing wrong with any of that: that's normal human development: you're supposed to be exploring identity now.) To cut your Mom a break, that can be tough on parents because that fierce "I AM" changes a LOT, very often, especially from an adult's perspective, having a very different sense of time, and seeing y'all from when you were wee. It can get dizzying. I'd say, for right now? Give it a few days or weeks, and chances are good some of this will sort itself out pretty naturally. If, after that, you're still having major clashes, then there are other things to look at. But for now, I'd suggest not being hasty and just giving it all room to breathe in, and doing what you can not to escalate things. [ 01-26-2007, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Heather ]
Member # 32276
posted 01-26-2007 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heather: In my experience, this sort of interchange between parents and teens is pretty common. Part of why, I think, is that when you're a teenager, you're often SO intense about everything. And so much of what you choose to do is tied up in idnetity-seeking, as well as whatever other motivators they are, so "I do," often is also "I am." And, to cut your Mom a break, that can be tough on parents because that fierce "I am" changes a LOT, especially from an adult's perspective, having a very different sense of time, and seeing y'all from when you were wee. Id say, for right now? Give it a few days or weeks, and chances are good some of this will sort itself out pretty naturally. If, after that, you're still having major clashes, then there are other things to look at. But for now, I'd suggest not being hasty and just giving it all room to breathe in, and doing what you can not to escalate things. haha yeah I think im a tough kid to deal with a guess. Its that Aries fighter type attitude. You know "I am woman hear me roar" I can do anything I set my mind too and just watch me become something type of attitude I have.
I think she worries I guess about my choices in life and is worried about my future since im such a vocal person as it is shes got some fear im going to end up in jail cause of my protesting on things and being Vegan will just escalate my activist ways more. She only has to deal with me though for a couple more months and then Im moving out so I was kinda hoping out last few months together would be nice. But yeah I will let her cool off I guess. I will continue to just make my own food and eat how I choose and hope that she will accept it. Its just a bummer. Shes suppose to be a Uber Liberal parent and as soon as Its her own daughter it all changes.
Member # 3
posted 01-26-2007 04:04 PM
Eh, like anyone else, she likely will have phases that come and go with how liberal she is when it comes to her kid.
Right there in Aries-ville with you (on the taurus cusp, no less), and I hear ya. if it's any consolation for your Mom, I've been involved in myriad protests since I was all of six and have yet to land in jail for it. Give it time: if things are few tense in a few weeks, I think telling her you cherish the last few months you have together would be a really good idea.
Member # 32276
posted 01-26-2007 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heather: Eh, like anyone else, she likely will have phases that come and go with how liberal she is when it comes to her kid. Right there in Aries-ville with you (on the taurus cusp, no less), and I hear ya. if it's any consolation for your Mom, I've been involved in myriad protests since I was all of six and have yet to land in jail for it. Give it time: if things are few tense in a few weeks, I think telling her you cherish the last few months you have together would be a really good idea. My mom is a taurus too! Maybe thats why we butt heads more. We both have horns ;-)
Yeah she doesnt like me going to protest, I almost got arrested at the last big anti war one on Oct 5th. Some cop litterly grabbed my friend by the breast and pushed her out of the way. So me being a defender I went up to him and said "Hey you cant do that I want your badge number and your name?" and basically I got thrown against a wall and was almost arrested when somehow I got off the hook. (I think it was cause someone had a video camera going next to us) Yeah I guess time is the thing with her, Its hard though. Im use to telling her everything in my head and now I cant do that. Like Im going to some big Anti War protest tomorrow and normally I would be telling her all about it and she doesnt even want to know she told me. I guess its hard watching her daughter grow up. And I need to see it like that. As she is the only one in my life, Im also the only one in hers so shes kinda just starting to realize 'My baby is growing up'. Maybe I will take her out to lunch or dinner on her next day off and let her know i appreciate her and how much I love her. Maybe that will win me some brownie points.
Member # 32055
posted 01-26-2007 05:28 PM
Hey I'm a lil late, but congrats on going vegan, or if you're not quite vegan yet, that's cool too. I've been vegan for a lil more than a year, and I'm so happy. I love to cook which helps a lot, and I see that you do too, so that's really good. Have you heard of the cookbook Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the World? I'd totally recommend it. I make cupcakes all the time and bring them to school to pass out to my friends it's so fun. Not the most healthy things but great for special occasions and stuff.
And my mom's the same way. I have only been to a few protests(most of them about fur), and my mom freaks out thinking I'm gonna get arrested. It's pretty funny actually. Anyways, if you have any questions about anything I'd be glad to help you out!
Member # 13388
posted 01-27-2007 06:52 AM
Surferchk, who does the cooking/grocery shopping/clean-up at your home? (I read through this thread and didn't see it, although I could have missed it.)
Getting (more) involved in the cooking process for the whole family could really help win you more support from your mom and others. It gives your beliefs creditiblity and shows you're willing to pitch it. Additionally, they can try some of the dishes and realize vegetarian food can be delicious and healthy, too. My family is a mix of various degrees of vegetarian/meateating. When one of us is at home, my parents are so glad not to have to cook themselves that they'll jump for joy at any meal we cook-- including buying whatever special groceries we might need.
Member # 32413
posted 01-31-2007 01:39 PM
i was a vegetarian until i was 18. my mom ownes a health food store and so it was sort of "in" to not eat meat. then the industry sort of changed and locally raised and free range meat became very popular and the importance of protien in the diet was more a hot topic. i slowly introduced meat into my diet and my body really took to it. when you switch over pay close attention to what your body is telling you. do you feel tired, weak? change in appetite? other changes...skin, etc. make sure you get enough protien in your diet and substitute the minerals and vitamins you're not getting from meat with supplements.
Member # 32276
posted 02-07-2007 12:39 AM
So its been a while now since Ive switched over and Im really liking it. I feel so much more refreshed and ive noticed my allergies arnt even acting up anymore which is interesting.
My mom has started accepting it and being really nice about things. When she goes shopping she includes me and lets me get all the things I need. I found a really yummy Veggie "Hot Dog" and ive found some good food. It was a change at first and my stomach wasnt too found of everything but now its nice and im happy with it. Ive gotten use to always reading the labels on food, Ive gone full Vegan I havnt had egg, Milk, meat, Cheese since the 25th. And its really becoming natural for me to order healthy food when I go to a resteraunt and all of that. And EcoFem, My mom usually cooks but I tend too share the kitchen time with her. So thats what ive been doing lately cooking for her and the family. I made a vegetable soup for her and a stirfry with no meat and all veggies. So they can see that its not all bad being Vegan. Im also taking vitamin supplements to make sure I get plenty of everything i need in my system
Member # 3
posted 02-07-2007 10:09 AM
Surfer, I had the allergy fix, too. As I understand it, that's actually a fairly common "side effect" of a vegan diet for many. Bonus!
One book a friend turned me on to years back I like -- and which also has some awesome recipes -- that explains a lot of the health issues around eating meat, dairy, and sugar is "Breaking the Food Seducation" by Dr. Neal Barnard. I bet your local library has it around.
Member # 13388
posted 02-07-2007 11:24 AM
Wow, major props to you, Surferchk for going veggie (vegan!)-- the healthy way at that-- and sticking to it! I'm glad to hear your mom's supportive and I agree that soy hot dogs are delicious. My mom's not vegetarian, but after comparing the contents/calories of veg versus meat dogs, she now eats tofu pups (love the name.) What brand do you like? My whole family like soy sausage-- I forget the brand? I mostly eat legumes because the soy "meat" products are so expensive (cheaper than organic meat tho...) And it's great to hear your family is enjoying your cusine, too.
Member # 32276
posted 02-07-2007 04:38 PM
Heather, I will totally check out that book next time im at the library I two books I just bought that im reading thru (Manifesta and Grassroots) so once im done with them than I will borrow that one.
It really is amazing about the allergy thing. My whole life I have had to take a benydryl a day and now I havnt taken any allergy medication since I changed my diet. Im loving it and It will save a nice ammount of money seeing how expensive all those medicines add up to be. Ecofem: The brand is "Yves Veggie Dogs" they taste almost like sausage instead of hotdogs. But there very tastey and filling. And I just buy Potatoe bread because its the only bread I've found so far without milk. and Veganaise to go on it and it makes a good meal. Barely noticeable that it isnt just a normal hotdog.
Member # 13388
posted 02-10-2007 07:21 AM
I'll have to check those "Yves Veggie Dogs" when I'm back in the States. I'm wondering if they're maybe a West Coast-thing because I hadn't seem them in stores before? I'm a mustard fan myself (I like piling veggie baked beans and sauerkraut on dogs.)
Member # 29292
posted 02-10-2007 08:39 AM
Hey Ecofem, I am a vegetarian myself and I live in east of Canada and we have Yves Veggie Dogs here too. So I think it isn't just a West Coast-thing therefore.
I did used to eat those too from time to time but I'm a bit hesitant now since there have been a huge controversy tht they were using a lot of pesticides in their soy bean and if this occured to be true, it's certainly no good for our health. They are not organic soy beens as far as I know. I sometimes eat those when we do like barbecue with my family but other than that, I'm no big fan of meat products. [ 02-10-2007, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: cool87 ]
Member # 32276
posted 02-13-2007 02:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ecofem: (I like piling veggie baked beans and sauerkraut on dogs.) Well Im now addicted to putting sauerkraut on my hot dogs thanks to you. After I read what you said I was like 'Hmm I will have to try that' pretty tastey. Im now putting Veganaise, Sauerkraut and some gaucomole on my dogs. Taste pretty good.
Do you have any suggestions for a brand of like sandwhich meat that isnt actually meat that may be tastey? So far I've been eating Boca burgers/chicken patties, Eggrolls, Vegetable hot stickers, and the dogs. But Im missing the like sandwhich stacking with meat deal. But I havnt found a good brand yet.
Member # 3
posted 02-13-2007 02:56 PM
Hey E., one great brand found here on the left coast is "Field Roast." They're WAY tasty, and come in three or four nicely unusual varieties. they also come sliced or in a roast.
(Tip: if you want to make amazing barbecue sandwiches, you can shred the roasted tomato kind and simmer it with barbecue sauce. It's to die for.)
Member # 32276
posted 02-13-2007 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heather: Hey E., one great brand found here on the left coast is "Field Roast." They're WAY tasty, and come in three or four nicely unusual varieties. they also come sliced or in a roast. (Tip: if you want to make amazing barbecue sandwiches, you can shred the roasted tomato kind and simmer it with barbecue sauce. It's to die for.) Thanks Heather!
Ohh how did you know I wanted that BBQ sandwhich? Are you judging me cause im from TX j/k :-P Cool I will look for that at the store next time im there. Ive sooo been missing like actual sandwhich style meat.
Member # 13388
posted 02-13-2007 05:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Surferchk07: [Well Im now addicted to putting sauerkraut on my hot dogs thanks to you. After I read what you said I was like 'Hmm I will have to try that' pretty tastey. Im now putting Veganaise, Sauerkraut and some gaucomole on my dogs. Taste pretty good. Do you have any suggestions for a brand of like sandwhich meat that isnt actually meat that may be tastey? Glad to hear! Speaking of sauerkraut, they even sell sauerkraut
juice here if you look hard enough; however, I honestly can't think of any German actually eating sauerkraut... it's been at German-American festivals in the US! I'm not into the ersatz-meat slices (gotta try that BBQ option tho!) but what about making your own hummus or spreads? I live in a neighborhood with a high population of people of Turkish and Arabic descent and there are a lot of great to go veggie options. (We have a lot of like Lebanese places where I'm from in the States, but it's so expensive!) I'll often pick up a "falafel sandwich" to go with three falafel patties, sauces and veggies for just 1.50?€ (~1.80$). I love food/nutrition/eating, so I'm always glad to discuss! The guacamole's a good suggestion; I'm not a big fan of Mayo but I'll try that Veganaise. How's it been going out to eat?
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posted 02-13-2007 06:30 PM
Ah going out to eat was interesting. Most the places I use to go to eat only have one or two things on the menu that are vegan friendly so its a bit hard cause you dont have much to choose from. But I've found theres alot of local vegan friendly places in Seattle and over on my side of the water most the places atleast have 3-5 items on there menu I can eat.
Like I can still go to sushi with the family and go to the local burger joint and I just get non meat items when im there. My family I dont think is taking at as well as I am though haha. My mom doesnt like having to cook the meat seperatly. Though it takes the same ammount of time and really doesnt change the flavor of the meal. So she moans about that alot. So I dont get included in family meals anymore. Maybe once a week they will cook something I can eat too. So when they make there meat product I just make me a vegan dog or something vegan and sit at the table with them anyway.