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Member # 26880
posted 10-30-2006 08:16 PM
I've got a friend (who I suggested make this post, but she told me to, and I'm very malleable, you see).
We got into an argument where she felt she was overweight, and was considering a "Raw Diet" - Vegan, nothing cooked over 116 farenheit. She says she weighs 168 pounds and is 5 foot 9 and 3 quarters of an inch - almost 5 foot 10. She doesn't look fat at all - she is quite gorgeous, and certainly no more overweight than the girl I am dating...who weighs 150ish and is 5 foot 10. She rides a lot (IE, 7-9 hours a week), and is very phsyically active - I get the feeling her extra weight is muscle. So, 2 questions. 1) Is her idea of losing weight view a raw diet a good one? 2) If it isn't, how do I convince her not to?
Member # 11569
posted 10-30-2006 08:25 PM
Is she doing this switch under the watchful eye of a nutrionist or doctor? If not, I'd suggest this is her first step - making big changes like this to one's diet, regardless of weight, is really something that needs to be worked on with a pro to make sure all nutritional bases are being covered. That way they can be the ones to steer her in the right direction.
That said, if she's eating properly and exercising regularly (and it sounds like she's doing that at least) her weight isn't liable to shift much. When we're taking care of our bodies, they tend to settle into what's comfortable and healthy for them. Really, I don't think there's too much you can do to convince her not to - in my experience, if someone is feeling less than their best, commenting on their weight or looking, even in positive ways, only serves to reinforce how much their looks mean to others and themselves. Present that you're concerned for her (frankly, the raw diets don't seem like a terribly safe way for someone to go without tons of research on it) and suggest she talk to a pro, but try and leave weight and lookism issues out of it.
Member # 26880
posted 10-30-2006 09:06 PM
I suggested she talk to a doctor already. She said "She doesn't do doctor's" because she doesn't trust "Some of what they do, such as vaccines", and proceeded to try to explain that vaccines were bad because it is possible to have the antibodies from your parents, and thus, vaccinations open you up to unecessary infection. It wasn't very well argued.
Member # 568
posted 10-30-2006 10:57 PM
oi, people who are into raw food and eschewing vaccines make my job so difficult. hearing that stuff makes me wanna bang my head against my desk.
1. Raw food is not a good idea. Cooking makes food digestible AND SAFER. Cooking kills germs. Cooking is good. Will she lose weight on raw food? possibly since it involves a ton of roughage. But if she relies on other raw food staples like nuts, those are calorie-loaded, so she might not lose weight. Of course, getting gastroenteritis from raw food might also take some pounds off, albeit quite unpleasantly. 2. vaccines are good because they have helped us eradicate smallpox, slashed morbidity and mortality of diseases like polio, diphtheria and pertussis. however, thanks to the anti-vaccine NUTJOBS, pertussis is on the rise again in the western world and polio is crippling African villages. a mother's antibodies protect during the first 6 months of your life. after that, your thymus has to work on its own, or with help from vaccines. but what do i know? i only work in public health. i only have a masters degree from a good school. i obviously have no idea what i'm talking about when it comes to improving the health of communities.
Member # 568
posted 10-30-2006 11:00 PM
btw, your friend has a BMI of 24.8, which is perfectly normal.