T O P I C R E V I E W
*Lauren*
Member # 25983
posted 12-10-2007 11:52 PM
Hey folks! Here's the place to leave notes and ask for feedback on stuff you're doing to either get the word out about ST or to help us out. For example, if you're writing an in-your-own-words piece and want to pitch an idea before writing, or helping us by making a webpage elsewhere with approval from Heather. So, have at it, and thanks for being involved! :)
*Lauren*
Member # 25983
posted 12-10-2007 11:54 PM
(Bumped primarily for TheFlash, whose table of contraceptive effectiveness page has the potential to rock ridiculously righteous rump. <3 for geeks.)
TheFlash
Member # 33089
posted 12-11-2007 08:25 PM
Your info page on choosing Contraceptiveshttp://www.scarleteen.com/article/reproduction/margaret_sangers_disneyland_choosing_contraceptives says that the "Sponge" has a failure rate of 20% for perfect use and 32% for typical use. It also says that this method has spermicide. So given this is true, then why would spermicide alone have 8% and 26% listed which is a lower failure rate? Why have the "Sponge" part of it if it is just making it more likely to get pregnant? Thanks.
Heather
Member # 3
posted 12-11-2007 08:43 PM
Flash, I'm going to try and find a little time tomorrow to get you the three main sources of effectiveness statistics I use when addressing BC efficiacy. One is a very large book, so that won't work, but I think I can scan in what you need (though if you have my book, that might be easiest). Per the stats for the Sponge, I'll have to double check those and the spermicide stats for you, too. If those are still correct, it may be an issue about the sponge not foaming properly (I hate to diss any method, since everyone has different things that work for them, but I remember those sponges when they first came out, and yeeps, you couldn't pay me to use them again: I struggled in the book not to say that they tended to make vaginas look like rabid dogs foaming at the mouth ) sometimes, or with it being put in too early, or used after being in too long... nevertheless, I'll check as soon as I can and get back to you. Again, thanks so much for working on this!
TheFlash
Member # 33089
posted 12-12-2007 02:24 AM
In the code for the webpage you will see 4 blocks of data. I pasted them below, but the formatting is easier to read for youself by either looking at the source and then press Alt-v, c, in IE7. or you can cut and paste the text below into notepad. You need to see it without word wrapping for it to make sense. You'll see a list of the method codes, the perfect percent, the typical percent, and a grid of 0's and 1's that say if the combination is good=1 or bad=0. When formatted in notepad without wrapping. Pick from menu: Format | Word Wrap. They should all line up in a nice neat table. The combo table works like a mileage chart you would see on a road map. The 1/0's line up with the method codes both horizontally and vertically. For example: rows come in same order as columns A, B, C ------- 0 <- A is first row 1, 0 <- B is second row 0, 1, 0 <- C is third row... This example table says only methods A+B and B+C can be used together because that's where the 1's are in the table. All other values are 0, so they are bad combos. All I can really do at this point is edit the numbers or change the 1/0 combo values. If the data doesn't come with this info, it won't work with what I have written. I might be able to change what I wrote, but I'm in enough trouble with my family for ignoring chores this weekend. If they find out I'm spending time on this and not homework or chores, I think I would be in serious trouble. I'll say this again, I'm really not very good with website stuff and you must have people that can do that part? I know nothing about BC, I know you know that part. I'm just good at math. So please don't ask me to read a bunch of stuff about BC. It's not that I don't want to help, it's just that I won't get it and I don't need trouble at home. - Cut and paste this text below into notepad without word wrap to see the tables... var method = ["Abs", "MCo", "FCo", "Dia", "Spg", "Pil", "Rng", "Ptc", "Lun", "DeP", "IUD", "Emg", "Spm", "WDr", "Per"]; var perfect = [100.0, 98.0, 95.0, 91.0, 80.0, 99.0, 99.0, 99.0, 99.0, 99.0, 99.0, 90.0, 92.0, 96.0, 98.0]; var typical = [ 40.0, 85.0, 79.0, 80.0, 68.0, 92.0, 98.0, 98.0, 99.0, 99.0, 99.0, 75.0, 74.0, 72.0, 75.0]; var combo = [ [ 0 ], [ 1, 0 ], [ 1, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0 ], [ 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0 ], [ 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0 ], [ 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0] ];
TheFlash
Member # 33089
posted 12-12-2007 02:27 AM
Okay, looks like your postings removed all the formatting. Anyway, you get the idea I think. Everything is in the same order. It would line up nicely if the spaces weren't removed.