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Ketzicle
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I'm scared. I admit it.

I check the news every now and then, and although I'm not really a political buff, I do like to watch things which pertain to me. That includes abortion.

It pleases me to know Scarleteen is Pro-Choice. I'm Pro-Choice, but not just for abortion. I believe people should be able to make their own choices. It's personal freedom.

However, hearing the news of our new court justice and potential court justice is making me edgy. From what I've read, they won't be able to overturn Roe vs. Wade, but it does seem like they'll make some changes nonetheless.

Can I hear some views on this? Does anyone think Roe vs. Wade will be overturned? Could someone please comfort me, if there is any comfort worth giving?

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DarkChild717
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From what I understand, if Roe vs Wade is overturned, it will be because it infringes on state's rights. Each state has the right to govern itself, make stricter laws than the whole country, etc.

Will it happen? I don't know. Before we begin fretting about Meirs, lets see if she even makes it past committee. From what I've heard, that's really unlikely.

Also, keep in mind, for anything to be overturned, it must be challenged before the Supreme Court. While many disagree with Roe vs Wade, I can't recall anyone actually wanting to officially challenge it before the Court. I could be completey wrong on that, though.


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dailicious
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I'll also note that Roe v. Wade was decided as an issue of privacy, not on the legality of abortion itself. The way it was decided, I believe, will mkae it more difficult and less likely to overturn, try as some might.

I'll also admit, however, that I AM wary about what's going to happen with the Supreme Court, but that's a long and tiring discussion I'm not that eager to get into.


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Emmajen
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I find the situation with supreme court, especially very the situation with abortion rights to be worrying. However, no one can really know just how conservative Miers is as she was never a judge before and doesn't have any real judgement record to her name. I can hope that she turns out less conservative than it seems. Personally, I'm sad to see Justice O'Connor retiring from the supreme court. She was the swing vote on issues such as abortion and the death penalty and was the first woman to be on the supreme court.
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Justice O'Connor was also the ONLY Justice to even touch on the real issue of a case that involved sexual rights of homosexuals. (I don't remember the name of the case on hand, we went over it in Const. Law, but that was a year ago)

This is going to be a bit vague because I've really gone braindead on the case exactly, but it basically involved an issue of homosexual rights, and the way the case was decided by majority was in favor of the group, but the decision was also a bit shakier to really stick to constitutionality.

The way the case should have been decided (and really was the firmer constitutional decision) was presented by O'Connor. The thing is, the decision she presented would have been an exact decision to why gay marriage is completely constituionally legal. The reason the majority decided the case the way they did was to pass the case to support the homosexual right, but to avoid addressing the topic of gay marriage then and there (which they would have had to done if they had gone O'Connor's route).

I honestly believed that while it was basically a sure thing Reihnquist would have to be replaced during this term, none of the other justices would resign until next term.
That may have been naive of me, though.

Hm, if I can find that case (or if anyone else knows the one I'm taling about) I'll try and put it up. I'll have to dig through my old papers and see if i still have it or if I can find it on Find Law or something.


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I'm expecting this nomination to get shot down like a punk on the wrong corner in Compton.

Democrats aren't in a tizzy, but they're pretty much stacked up against Miers. But then you've got the Republicans who are rioting in Congress because Miers is a neophyte with no experience as a judge whatsoever.

She ain't gonna make it. I'm willing to put large sums of money on this.

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DarkChild717
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Gummy's right. She didn't make it. She's dropped her nomination today.
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Gumdrop Girl
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I should've made that bet. easy money.

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Now we have to worry about the new guy John Roberts, I believe.
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Roberts I can almost deal with.

It's Alito I don't trust.

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Emmajen
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I agree completely, Alito really scares me.
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Heather
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And he should scare anyone with any concern about reproductive rights.

One choice quote found from Alito: "What can be made of this opportunity to advance the goals of bringing about the eventual overruling of Roe v. Wade and, in the meantime, of mitigating its effects?"
http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/about/newsroom/pressrelease/pr11302005_alitomemo.cfm


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blue eyed girl
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the day alito looks at a positive pregnancy test and is confronted with the decision that, thanks to roe vs wade is not as complex and heartbreaking as it used to be, will be the day he has even the slightest bit of imput on the choices that others make.
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Heather
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Ummm...huh?

(I earnestly have no idea what you're trying to say. Not only is Roe Vs. Wade not untouchable, it also isn't the sole law that protects reproductive choice. Alito doesn't need to...be pregnant? Or female to impact these issues.)


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Uh-oh....Alito Sworn In As Justice (from the New York Times online)
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i think activism needs to go to the state level. if you truly believe it's the end of Roe, then you should be keen to realize that this sends the decision back to the states. The states will decide on how to regulate abortion. So lobby hard to put pro-choice pols into the legislature.

i live in California. The chances of abortion being banned here are even less likely than having snow fall in Los Angeles tomorrow.

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