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BJadeT
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Voluntary Human Extinction

I found this site last night, and I'm pretty sure it's for real. Anyway, I thought it might be interesting to discuss it at Scarleteen (even though I'm scared of Sexual Ethics and Politics because I always say stupid things!), because it does relate to reproduction, I suppose.
So what do you think about it? I think it actually makes a lot of sense, but it so strongly goes against human instincts that I can't imagine that many people would choose it.
Just thought we could have a discussion about it here.

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You wanna save humanity, it's just the people you can't stand-John Lennon

Witness the infinite justice of the new century. Civilians starving to death whilst waiting to be killed.

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Confused boy
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Its funny how many people seem to beleive that the death of the human race is the only way to help the Earth survive. Surely this must be the last laugh of all extremist political movements. You don't get ideologies much more destructive than this. Atleast this site seems to be ummm... comparatively non-aggressive. I would prefer to call it a branch of ultra-nihilism or perhaps "mortuism."

Human's have got a lot of bad press in recent times and not without reason but in my opinion these sort of movements are completely insane. Its only in the last 200 years or so that we started to cause any major damage the Earth. Before then, we were completely stupidly aggressive to each other but the animal world survived fine.

People have not identified the problem closely enough because humanity is not the cause of the worlds problems. Do they really want to destroy the most advanced species evolution has ever produced? The same one that produced such great works of art, philosophies and poetry? Lets give ourselves a break and say "Yes we have managed some great achievements on our still short stay in existence."

If we allowed ourselves to die out, what do you think the next dominant species will do when it comes along? Do you think it will necessarily think twice before it destroys any species in finds easy to prey on or exploit? The human race is only just starting to grow up and they want to kill it off now?

Since this is a thread of extremist beliefs, I feel I am allowed to post blatant propagandist messages about my chosen not completely extreme idealogy. The thing that makes us destroy the environment? capitalism! Now we have the power to change the world, what do we do with it? We make money out of it and otherise ignore it! That is what must be destroyed, not human beings themselves.

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Bobolink
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Quote from the page:

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VHEMT Volunteers are realistic. We know we'll never see the day there are no human beings on the planet. Ours is a
long-range goal.

Had to think about that one for a moment.

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We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.

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Shenzie2007
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(Warning: Rants Ahead)
I think it's a good idea, but not to the point of eliminating the entire human species. Instead, we should try to reduce our numbers to something more managable. Come on, 6 odd billion people is a bit much, but we should still keep our species going, if only for fear of worse destroyers to replace us.
(End Rant)

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BlackRoseFaery
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That "movement" seems a bit extreme to me. I could understand trying to get the human population down by choosing to not have kids, or if someone wanted a child they could adopt. Or maybe people could just choose not to have huge families with 5 or 6 kids.
Either way though, no one is going to agree to either of those ideas. But maybe in the future, we'll figure out how to expand onto different planets, which I think would be much cooler.

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logic_grrl
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quote:
I could understand trying to get the human population down by choosing to not have kids, or if someone wanted a child they could adopt. Or maybe people could just choose not to have huge families with 5 or 6 kids.
Either way though, no one is going to agree to either of those ideas.

Actually, quite a few people choose to adopt instead of having biological kids, either out of concern about over-population or from a sense that it's wrong to bring more children into the world while there are already so many kids in need of families.

And of course many people choose to limit the number of children they have, for various reasons. Not everyone wants a huge family.

So I think it's inaccurate to say that "no one is going to agree to either of those ideas".


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