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alaska
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Just came across this article in the Washington Post on the recent court win and struggles of a young woman who lost her uterus after a botched state forced abortion in China.

Just again shows (in my opinion) that while there needs to be some sort of family planning in highly populiesed countries, Chinas way isn't exactly the right way because it completely disregards the people's own opinions and rights.

What are your opinions?

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I have read so much about Family Planning in China but every article still send chills down my spine.

While this latest report is nothing short of sad and very frankly, disgusting. It isn't the worst.

This patriachy mess, as Gumdrop has put so nicely before, is really rearing it's ugly head. Parents kill their new born girls so that they can have a boy because girls are considered a waste of money since they are going to get married anyway.

It's really very sad and it seems like countries like China only know how to act with force.

Countries like Indonesia and Thailand are trying their best to educate the people in the more rural parts of the country on contraception. And I think that should be the way to go.

Enforcing one child only policies only drives people to desperate means.

Singapore tried that a few years ago and being the abiding citizens we are, we stopped at 2. Now they are desperate for more children. And now, it's "three please". I foresee the same thing happening to China in the next 20 years.


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I didn't even see this topic until now. I don't know how I missed it.

Just to post something in the same vein that hits closer to home for some of us (certainly not for you, I guess, Lin), I thought I'd point out that Canada has some darker moments in its history concerning this kind of stuff, too.

When I heard about this story, which was in the news about a year and a half ago, I was shocked and very, very frightened.


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This sort of reminds me of the white australia policy - all the "coloured" people were taken from their families and put in orphanages. Sometimes they went to white families where some were sexually abused. There was no sex ed - one girl got her period and thought she was bleeding to death!

The basic idea of the policy was to breed out non-white people. They plucked aboriginal children from everywhere, many who never saw their families again.

Today, the people are asking our prime minister to apologize for the mistakes of the government in the past and on behalf of the white people. He says his goal is Reconciliation, but he won't apologise. Did you see the "Sorry" shirts Midnight Oil wore during the Olympics? Yep, thats what they were for. It seems the entire nation except John Howard an Pauline Hanson are for reconciliation.

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Oh Pauline Hanson.

She annoys the crap out of me and it's scary because I wouldn't want to go study in Australia knowing that such people could be in power.

She should just go back to her fish and chip shop. Sigh.


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Pauline Hanson is probably the only redhead I DON'T love.

Too bad if she did reopen her shop she would be forced back into politics because she went broke only selling food to white people.

Why can't we all just get along?
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You know what I find really sad about the family planning system in China?

The fact that, sometimes, straight after a second child is born, it is put to death via an injection in front of it's mother, and then the mother is sterilized. That really is sad.

Pauline Hanson could disappear for all I care. Some of her policies and ideals are just plain disgusting.

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Again some sad news showing what state forced family planning is doing in China:

"China Captive dies after fall"

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A 34-year-old mother of two died hours after being taken from her home by Chinese birth control officials who wanted to sterilize her against her will, a relative said Saturday.

The officials told the family of Sun Zhonghua that she died Wednesday afternoon after jumping from a four-story window, said the relative, who asked not to be named.

But the relative said bruises on Sun's face led him to believe she had been beaten to death, probably for refusing to cooperate with the procedure.


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I'm all for doing something about over-population, but I very firmly believe that this should be done through education, not force. No one should ever be forced to have an abortion.

And Lin, please don't let Pauline Hanson stop you from coming to Australia- she represents a minority of mostly uneducated people- she may have been voted in, but she definitely doesn't speak for all of us, as you've probably gathered. It makes me really sad that one ignorant woman is giving the country such a bad name with people who'd like to come over here.


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Oh wow. I just used that same article in the other family planning thread.

And no worries Beppie hon, I have been to Oz a zillion times and people have been nothing but absolutely friendly. Except for when I was 8 and a woman threw me out of the bookshop for browsing through a book. I love Australia and nothing will put me off your beautiful country. It would be nice though if she really went back to frying her fish and chips.


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