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sweet chick
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The War is on! Where I live (<----- see below name) They resently built a planed parent hood building. THere have been pro-life protesters picketing there for quite awhile now, even before the place was built. NOw they plan to build a Family planning center.. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET!
Is that crazy or what? They finally desided to do this when the first abortion took place a few weeks ago. They have had to increase security around the building, for the saftey of the doctors, voluntres, and the visitors. They shouldn't even need to have security guards at the doors a a planned parenthood, or any place like that. It isn't even close to a bad neighborhood, so they don'y have to worry about anything like that.
Now, don't you think that putting a Family planning center across the street is a bad idea? It is going to scare off people, maybbe more than the protesters do. What are your feelings about that? PLease tell me.

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Heather
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The crazy thing about that is that Planned Parenthood offers a VARIETY of services, most of which are not abortive services, but sexual health and contraceptive services.

And picketing against STI testing or GYN exams doesn't speak well of supporting women's health or the health of the children they may someday bear.

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I wasn't aware that Planned Parenthood offers abortive services.. does it?

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Celtic Daisy
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What are family planning clinics? Sorry, i'm not terribly informed, but i do know what planned parenthood clinics are.

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Heather
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Family Planning Clinics, like Planned Parenthood usually offer a wide range of services, including birth cointrol, GYN exams, STD/STI testing, and in some cases, abortive services.

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Ohhhh....i see, makes sense.
I agree, this seems like an odd and bad idea. And just for the record, i am pro-choice, and do not think that poeple should be picketing at all like that.

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I agree with anyone who protests against America's Holocaust.
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baptist, i really didn't want to get into this, but i think it's really disrespectful of you to call abortion "america's holocaust." for one thing, abortions are practiced throughout the rest of the world. for another thing, the word "holocaust" is used to describe something ineffably terrible, a vast catastrophe that has killed millions of people. i understand that you believe abortion to be just such a thing, but for those of us who disagree with you (and this IS, just to remind you, a pro-choice forum) calling abortion holocaust is disrespectful to the real meaning of the term.

em

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Honestly Baptist I understand your sentiments. Indeed, in a perfect world I would support them. In that world there would be no need for abortions as everyone would make responsible choices about sex and be educated to protect themselves from pregnancy. This perfect world would also not contain rapists because they would have recieved phsychiatric treatment before harming anybody. Unfortunately we dont live in a world like that, so there will always be a need for abortion in several cases.

Neway, sounds very strange to me that they are building for very similiar services (am I right, they sound the same) EXCEPT one will provide abortions and one will not. What a waste. Over here, I dont believe we have many of these centres. I believe we have information centres but the actual medical side tends to be implemeted into normal clinics and hospitals.


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i think that in this context the term "family planning center" means a pro-life equivalent of planned parenthood. like how "pregnancy crisis centers" strongly urge adoption, having the baby as opposed to abortion.

can someone please clarify?

em

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Err ... I always thought of them as one and the same, Em.

PP is sort of a family planning centre, right? Pregnancy crisis centres are probably somewhere along the same lines, but would push more towards abortion ... that word "crisis" just doesn't sit well w/ me.

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They are NOT the same.

Family planning centers are usually staffed by clinicians, doctors and counselors, as well as some volunteers, all of whom are actually certified in their fields. They offer sexual health services, birth control, GYN exams, STD/STI and pregnancy counseling and help and some offer abortive services.

"Pregnancy crisis" centers are VERY rarely staffed by anyone even minutely qualified, and do not offer ANY of the above services. In addition, some will even falsely advertise that they do, and/or use material and propaganda which is coerscive and without any medical or scientific merit.

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For one thing, no Planned Parenthood I know of in the country performs abortions. They refer you to places that will, but they don't do them. And second of all, Planned Parenthood IS a family planning service...

Besides, PP offers a lot of services that help PREVENT people from having abortions in the first place.


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Actually, in terms of abortion and Planned Parenthood clinics, that varies from clinic to clinic. Many Planned Parenthood locations do perform abortive services, in addition to other sexual health services.

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Confused Boy,

What about in cases of rape? I mean, honestly, you can't say that a woman has taken responsibility for her actions when she's been raped.

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can you buy condoms at a PP center?

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Heather
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Actually, condoms are usually FREE at Planned Parenthood clinics.

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My sexual health clinic isn't PP, but there they give out 10 free condoms, and the rest you can buy for 25c. On my last visit, the very kind nurse gave me two female condoms. Now i just gotta experiment w/ 'em ... hehe
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$uMMeR -
As said in my original post, rape would not happen in a perfect world as potential rapists would be identified and recieve treatment before they committed the crime. What I am saying is that abortion should not be the only and best solution. But I am not saying that abortion should be banned, that would be like surgically removing spots from a person with chicken pox! Instead you tackle the problems in society that necessitate abortion. An obvious example is sex education. Finding rapists before they commit crimes is quite a bit harder, I admit.

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hmm. where i grew up, pro-life reactionaries torched the local Planned Parenthood clinic. i don't even think they offered pregnancy terminations. *sigh*

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