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Elessar
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Just to know if I am wet from precum on my underwear, and I accidentally touched it and immediately fingered my gf. Is there a pregnancy risk here?

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I could see that my underwear was wet at that time [Frown]

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Hi there, Elessar, and welcome to the boards.

Were you able to first look at something on the site like this -- Can I Get Pregnant, or Get or Pass On an STI From That? -- to help you assess this yourself?

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Read that. So I guess the answer to that is no risk? Just wondering cause I can see that my underwear was wet, as if it gone through...only precum though. so does that matter?

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like i could still see it wet but not enough to flow? [Frown]

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Ideally, you really do want to wash your hands before touching someone else's genitals after you've touched your own, but that's really about germs (infections) rather than pregnancy.

Like that page filled you in about, this kind of scenario really isn't one that presents risks of pregnancy.

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Okay. Thank you! I will surely wash it next time!
I was freaking out.

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You're welcome.

You can take a few minutes and look more through that list to save you some of this in the future, too. In other words, you can look through it now, think about what kinds of risks you do and don't want to take, and when you do and don't need to use contraception for things, so that moving forward, you can only choose activities -- or choose to do them in ways -- that won't leave you freaked.

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but am just wondering, although it was seeping out a bit, like oozing, why is it not a risk?

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i have been on this site for a while too. only just registered. [Smile]

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To learn more about why some things pose pregnancy risks while others do not, try taking a look at this article:

Where DID I Come From? A Refresher Course in Human Reproduction

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'If there is a distinct barrier between the vagina and the penis in question, such as clothing, water or an interstate highway, there is not a likely risk of pregnancy.'

Meaning, although it is like oozing out, there is no risk? But what is it that is oozing then?

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I'm a little unclear what you're asking here. It sounds like there wasn't any direct contact between genitals, or between a bare vulva and freshly ejaculated semen. As you've read, if those things aren't present, there is no risk.

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Oh I meant, why although there is no direct contact, but if I transfer some of the precum that was oozing out a bit of my underpants, and fingered her, how is that not risky?

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As you read in the Where Did I Come from article, many conditions have to be present in order for pregnancy to occur. pre-ejaculate on a finger doesn't meet those conditions. Again, there has to be direct genital contact, or direct contact between ejaculate and someone's vulva, direct essentially meaning that someone would have to ejaculate directly onto a vulva. Can you take another read through that article?

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So, here's the scoop with pre-ejaculate.

Pre-ejaculate most often won't contain any sperm cells. It doesn't by design, but now and then, if someone has recently ejaculated and didn't urinate first, it can pick up some trace cells on the way out.

BUT.

1) Those trace cells are usually the crummiest of all the sperm cells; the ones least likely to be able to do anything (all sperm cells aren't creates equally: they vary a whole lot from cell to cell).
2) There is nowhere NEAR as many sperm cells in those situations as there are in a full ejaculation, and it takes hundreds of good cells to create a pregnancy, not just one, which is what a lot of people are taught.
3) Even with semen from a full ejaculation, pregnancy from indirect transfer like this -- from penis to hand to vagina -- isn't likely. Perhaps you can see why, with what I've filled you in about pre-ejaculate, that's beyond unlikely with that fluid.

Make sense?

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Ohh. Cause this is like the bottom of the food chain which is like super unlikely in the first place. Then coupled with the fabric which they cannot pass and the hands so it's totally non existent? Is that it?

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That's a pretty good way of looking at it, yes. [Smile]

Sounds like you get it now!

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Thanks a lot. [Smile]

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No problem. [Smile]

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Hey Heather,

Just to check, i read in your articles that during dry sex, as long as one person is wearing a piece of clothing (eg, underwear) there is no risk of pregnancy as sperms cannot go through clothing.

If so, does that mean that the wetness on the clothing that seeped through does not contain sperms? And the wetness that passes through is only water while sperms are blocked by the clothing? (I read this from another old post on this site where the analogy was used where clothing acts as a filter of sperms)

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HI Elessar,

I'm not Heather, but I can answer this one for you if that's okay. [Smile]

Wearing clothing equals indirect contact, which, as you and Heather discussed above, is pretty unlikely to lead to pregnancy.

I see that you and she discussed pre-ejaculate already, so I'm a little unclear. Are you asking something different in this question?

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Hi Robin,

Yeap sure.

No I was wondering how one layer of clothes can be a barrier for sperms. Was a bit confused when it was stated that sperms cannot pass through clothes, but then, what is it that pass through when the clothes are wet?

Does it mean that only water gets through clothes but sperms don't?

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As Heather said above, if we're talking about pre-ejaculate here, the likelihood that that fluid will even have sperm in it is low; and the likelihood that it will have viable sperm is even lower.

Pre-ejaculate and ejaculate can make clothes wet because they're fluids. Nothing, so far as I know, actually passes through; the fluids just make the clothes wet.

When we talk about indirect contact, we're talking about a situation in which ejaculate isn't in it's freshest, most complete form. If ejaculate gets on hands and is exposed to air, or if it soaks into fabric, it's no longer in it's freshest, most complete form.

Think about spilling a glass of water on a pair of pants. You know longer have a glass of water you can drink; you have water soaked into fabric. So too with ejaculation; you don't have ejaculate that can do it's job anymore; you have fabric soaked with ejaculate.

Again, though, in this case, we're talking about pre-ejaculate, which may not have sperm in it at all.

Does this help at all?

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so when i see it oozing out it is just fluids then, nothing else?

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What do you mean by nothing else? As Heather explained, there may or may not be sperm in pre-ejaculate. There's no way to tell, though.

The bottom line here is that there was no pregnancy risk from what you described. It sounds, though, like you're still feeling worried?

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Not entirely, guess you got my point wrongly. I know there is no risk involved in what i did.

But on another note, I would just like to know that when you see like your underwear getting wet, and you see something oozing out, be it ejaculate or pre-ejaculate, that is just liquids is it? Cause I just want to know why can't sperms go through clothing...

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I'm sorry. Guess I didn't explained it clear enough. [Frown]

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Even if someone were to be able to test semen that seeped through underwear, and found that there was sperm in it, it's unlikely that that sperm could then lead to pregnancy. The way pregnancy is known to happen just doesn't work like that. Sperm don't crawl, jump, fly, or run anywhere. They swim, for lack of a better word, in semen, with help from all the other sperm. This is why there has to be direct contact between genitals, or between fresh ejaculate and a vulva, in order for pregnancy to be a possibility.

Anything else, and the semen has started to dry up, or the sperm are dead or less viable from their exposure to air. IN other words, something has interrupted the delicate balance needed to keep sperm viable, and again, they're not able to jump.

If this still feels like a risky situation to you, you do have the option of avoiding direct genital contact with someone, regardless of what you're wearing or of ensuring that both you and your partner are wearing clothes, in which case there would be no possibility of fluids coming into contact with a bare vulva. [Smile]

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ohh. okay. noted. [Smile]

Now i understand why as long as there is a piece of clothing involved then there is no risk involved at all. Its more on the environment, rather than seeping through or not.

I'm okay. I just want to be clear.

Thanks a lot Robin. Appreciate it.

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You're so welcome. I'm glad it makes sense now.

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