You know, we actually have plenty of eivdence throughout history to make clear that the "civilized" world has always been this way when it comes to these things.
In fact, it has gotten better -- bear in mind that rape and child abuse did not used to be crimes until pretty recently in history. rape, in fact, was laargely popularized during wars, as it was common practice to rape women during battles.
And children have long been abused. Thankfully, it is now the minority who call child abuse "discipline."
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