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Milke
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When I was younger, I knew that Mrs meant that a woman was married and Miss meant that she wasn't, and so assumed it was similar for men, but no could ever convince me that unmarried men were called Mr too. And I've just noticed that I called Miz Scarlet 'Ms' in another post, and corrected the guy calling about the Toronto Star when he called me Mrs. Am I the only one who finds this title incredibly useful and uses it often, or do others care, too?
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I'm Ms. Blank, but only when I have to be. I very much prefer being called by my first name.

Although I must say that "Her Royal Highness the Empress Hanne" has a nice ring to it.

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Hehe .

Well, I don't prefer anyhting. Just call me whatever you want. Mud will do .

When I was in kindergarten, I remember that the title Ms. was kind of a secret. Like, you were keeping a secret as to whether you were married or not. Ahh, the education sysytem.......

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I seem to remember another option for males. 'Master'?

For younger unmarried males. I don't think its commonly used these days, for obvious reasons. ;p

I can understand a woman not wanting to be judged/evaluated based upon her marital status. I wouldn't, either.

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I don't think I know anyone who doesn't call me by my first name, and I would find it incredibly wierd if anyone called me by my surname, but I always tick the "Ms" box when I'm filling out forms. I don't really think that it would make any difference to who I am if I was married or not, so why should I bother to indicate that in my title?
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I always have this bad habit of calling teachers Ms. When they're married, and Mrs. when they are not married, even though I know the difference. Miss, and Ms. are the same thing Milke, if that was your question. But I think you know that.

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I have a horrible habit of misusing those titles. Suddenly, the women who are unmarried are. It's horrible. So I play it safe and refer to all of them as Ms. It works wonderfuly. They don't mind either.
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Mrs. actually comes from Mr. with 's (Mr's) And since an "s" with an apostrophe denotes ownership, why would any woman want that title?
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Niceguy16, maybe I'm misunderstanding you or something, but I feel the need to say something.
Ms. and Miss are not the same thing. Miss is used to refer to women (or girls) who are unmarried, while Ms. is used to refer to any female who prefers not to let others know what her marital status is, I think. In other words: Miss=single, Ms.=single/married.

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I do what DarkChild does. I agree, it works out great. No one minds that I know.

I would put Mrs., or all the correct stuff in writing though. But orally, I say the MS or MR.

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I was having this discussion with a friend and we both agreed we would much rather be called Miss, than Ma'am. Just as in German we'd rather be called Fraulein than Frau (even though Frau is now politically correct). Right now I'd tick Miss, but I think it's more an age thing than a marital thing. I'd switch to Ms. probably when I'm a little older whether I'm married or not. For me the designations Miss and Ms. just denote different ages while Mrs. denotes marriage.
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I'm waiting for the day when my title will be Doctor. No confusion there. Dr. Gumdrop. It has a nice ring to it

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Even when I get a doctorate, I'd never call myself 'Dr.' - simply because I don't want to be at a party and have some guy say "hey - can you check out this rash?".

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From an entymolgical viewpoint, I think that you will find "Mrs." is a contraction of "Mistress", from a time when that was a respectable word and did not imply extra-marital conduct.
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I have a problem with Ms. cos it's IMPOSSIBLE to say and I'd sound like some kind of mosquito every time I said it - no vowels, aint a proper word in my book. Plus, if I was ever married I'd want the whole world to know.
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I guess it's just a matter of preference...although if you are unmarried you wouldn't go around calling yourself "Mrs. whoever" Ms. is just a generational thing that has come about (in normal use) fairly recently, I'm only 17 and I remember never hearing it when i was smaller. I prefer Ms. over Miss, I don't really know why....

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When i was in grades k-6 Mrs I always used Mrs for all my female teachers. Most of them were married. Now in Hight School not all the teachers are married or they are divorced so it's just eaiser to say Ms instead of trying to remember who is what ect...
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You know, BJade, you may not always feel that way.

Honestly, I absolutely cringe when we get junk mail here that refers to me a Mrs. Brian -----(my husbands last name).

While I am very glad to be with my partner, being identified not as who I am, but as the person married to them with no identity of her own -- and lemme tell ya, he never gets any mail like that with them using my name in that way -- makes me ill and I find it increidibly sexist and insulting, which is why I have my name and he has his name. If and when we have kids, they'll be having both of our names, or some combination of them.

Ms. works fine for me. Miz does, too. But in the best of all possible worlds, I prefer just being called "Heather." I have a name, I don't need an arbitrary title.

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If my mom gets her way and I become a doctor, then I won't have to worry about what my title should be.

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I just got an old cookbook, full of recipes submitted by readers of a certain magazine, and realised that most of the women, when they don't use initials, use their husband's first name as well as last name. Like 'Mrs Joe Brown' or 'Mrs Arthur Clark'. UGH!!! Didn't these women exist by themselves, rather than as some sort of strange accessory?
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What's even more disturbing than that is I've seen many, many *gravestones* that say either "Mrs Joe Smith" or "Wife of Joe Smith"
NEVER the woman's name. Grr.

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I'm with the doctor people. Heh.

When I was young I always wondered how you pronounced Ms. How is it pronounced?

Well...Miz S...it's hard to get out of calling you Miz S. I don't know why.


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Heather
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Ms. is pronounced "Miz."

And you can have twenty doctorate degrees, and if you get married, you'll STILL get Mrs. John Smith mail.

But only if you're female, because you know, only women get the sheer pleasure of being seen as their husbands' property.

Gee, am I bitter?


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Would you rather be called Heather?

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LOL, sweetie.

I don't have a problem with "Ms." It is being called Mrs. So-and-so that gets me irked.


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They'll still call you Mrs. even if you're a medical doctor? That's odd...I know that when the introduce couples where the guy is a doctor it's "Dr. and Mrs. ____", and I've always heard couples where the woman is a doctor introduced as "Dr. and Mr. ____" or "Mr. and Dr. ____".

And I know what you mean about it being weird when women use their husband's first and last name. At work, I used to see alot of older women who had that on their credit cards and signed that as their signature. That would be really strange to me, kinda like completely giving up your identity. Although I dunno...I have a friend who is from India, and her middle name is the same as her dad's first name, and when she gets married, her middle name will be changed to her husband's first name. I don't think I'll really be bothered by taking my husband's last name, but if I have to take anymore of his name than that...well you may as well just brand it on my butt or something so then you could tell who I belonged to, but there'd be no messy paperwork to fill out. But then that's just my opinion.

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<--copy-editing nerd, here...
Apparently, in print, one should follow these guidelines.

From the Associated Press Stylebook:
"courtesy titles Refer to both men and women by first and last name: Susan Smith or Robert Smith. Do not use the courtesy titles Mr., Miss, Ms., or Mrs. except in direct quotations, or where needed to distinguish among people of the same last name (as in married couples or brothers and sisters), or where a woman specifically requests that a title be used (for example, where a woman prefers to be known as Mrs. Susan Smith or Mrs. Robert Smith.) In cases where a person's gender is not clear from the first name or from the story's context, indecate the gender by using he or she in a subsequent reference."

Personally, I feel that they should be dropped altogether, and I'd like to question any woman who would rather be known as Mrs. Robert Smith than by her own name. Ugh.

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The thing I dont like is my teachers calling me Ms. (last name) thru out the whole school year, I even tell them (politley of course) if they will call me by my first name.
It just feels more comfertable. I dont mind nicknames, I love when my boyfriend (or friends) call me by my nickname(s).

Maybe when Im married it will be different. Who knows?!

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