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Sunset_Rose
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Sorry, if this has been done before, but after all the fuss in the UK recently, was the law actually passed allowing gay adoption? And what does everyone think about this?
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I did a quick search and found some topics on gay/lesbian adoption in general - e.g.:

http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum15/HTML/000050.html
http://www.scarleteen.com/forum/Forum8/HTML/000508.html

- but none on the particular law change in the UK .

Actually, though, "gay adoption" has been going on for quite a while in the UK. There are no laws that prevent gay men or lesbian adopting as single parents (although some adoption agencies won't place children with gay or lesbian parents, just as some won't place children with single people at all).

The recent shift (and yup, the law finally got passed here) has been about allowing gay and lesbian couples - and unmarried heterosexual couples - to adopt as couples.

Previously, if any of these couples wanted to adopt, the only way was for one member of the couple to apply to become a "single adoptive parent". The social workers would know this person was part of a couple and would evaluate the couple as parents together - but only one person would become the legal parent of the children. If that person died, their partner would have no parental rights, and could potentially lose the children, even if they'd been involved in bringing them up all their lives.

I think the change in the law is a very good thing - not only because of the equal rights issue, but also because it will hopefully increase the pool of potential adoptive parents.

There's a serious shortage - at the moment, most prospective adoptive parents seem to be looking only for healthy newborn babies, whereas most of the children who are available for adoption in this country are older and/or have special needs.


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The bill on gay adoption was not passed, thanks to the Conservative party.

I think they set up what was referred to a "three line whip"? against it.

A few MP's were against the parties oficial stance, which led to the leader Iain Duncan Smiths speech about "Unite or die"...


I'm trying to find an article on it.


Here we go!
http://search.sky.com/search/skynews/results/1,,,00.html?QUERY=%22Gay+adoption%22&CID=30000&x=24&y=13

Whole bunch of 'em!

[This message has been edited by Slayer_gurl (edited 11-19-2002).]


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Actually, it has now been passed, despite the three-line whip. Check it out:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/commons/story/0,9061,834515,00.html


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Thanks for your help you guys!
Nice to know that they did pass it after all, despite the opposition.

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All I can say is thank god it passed. Now it would be nice to see all of the U.S. states follow suit. After all if society thinks that is is ok for one woman to raise a child, why should it be bad for 2 women to be raising a child. And since there is absolutely no evidence that women are any better or worse at raising kids than men, why restrict that to women. If it is ok for one man to raise a child, why would it be worse to have 2 loving men raise that child. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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agh, I need to move to the UK. in Houston they won't pass the most basic of gay rights bills. you would not believe some of the recent letters in the chronicle raging about homosexuals. my favorite quote (paraphrased) was: "if we allow them [gays] the right to be married, we are opening the door for other groups to request the same right." what is he talking about?? sheep??? polygamy? it terrifies me, the level of intolerance!
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quote:
Originally posted by sunnyside:
what is he talking about?? sheep??? polygamy? it terrifies me, the level of intolerance!

Haha, I laughed out when I read that. Sheep! I'll remember that one, sunny.
I wasn't aware (as a fellow Houstonian )that gay rights were the rage right now. Does the Chronicle make a big deal of it? I hadn't seen anything.

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quote:
Originally posted by sunnyside:
what is he talking about?? sheep??? polygamy?

HAHAHA! Good point! Yeah, what do they think we'll want? For 3 people to be able to get married? To legally marry our pets?! To be able to marry more than one person?! AAHHH! Atleast they're kind of making progress in Canada...


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Whoa, careful. There is nothing at all deviant about loving more than one person, and, just as loving someone of same sex isn't deviant. And, as has been discussed many times in this forum, there is nothing wrong with wanting to marry those you love.

I'm not trying to start a discussion about polyamory (There are plenty of those going in Sexual Ethics and Politics.) but just a reminder that we have to be respectful of everyone's safe and consensual choices.


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As I said, I too am glad that they passed that law, but what about the others? There is still a long way 2 go as far as dicrimination goes in this country. I also am appalled at the lack of basic gay rights in America, the country of freedom! As an idealistic english person, I feel slightly crushed...
And good for saying about polygamy, we should appreciate that different ppl make different choices.

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